JOINING THE RUSH-LED CHORUS ON DUB (Normal People Prefer Bush. He has gravitas)

rushlimbaugh ^ | 3/26/2002 | Rush Limbaugh

[nunya bidness]

I understand absolute and qualified being the distinction between the European and American system but you said:

In the end they decided to grant the veto but to limit it to the term of office of the person elected.

That's what I'm asking for.

[RamsNo1]

Did it ever occur to you that Bush couldn't care less about House or Senate republicans and their issues? It stands to reason then that he couldn't care less about republican senate or house election campaigns in 2002, either. After all, Bush is said to have only a few more agenda items until the end of his presidency and so why would he need more republicans to bug him to push issues and stir up trouble. All Bush cares about now is being re-elected in 2004 and he will give democrats more than half of everything they want to keep up the lovely tone in DC. If he only knew that being a war president also means running the domestic side of his job.

[SuziQ]

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.
~~ Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life

Hmmm. I'd say that puts Dubya in pretty good company, wouldn't you, MM?

[TLBSHOW]

You have freepmail.

[Texasforever]

That's what I'm asking for.

I will try to find more but the fact remains that Should Bush veto the bill and declare it unconstitutional, it would NOT prevent President Clinton from taking the same bill and declaring it constitutional and sign it into law. That has been done time and again. The veto like the executive order is only as permanent as the person's time in office. If Bush had an absolute veto his declaration would defeat the bill for evermore. At that point a logical argument could be made that he could declare any law that he felt was bad unconstitutional and do away with for example the Brady Bill. The analogy could be with "Jury nullification". A jury can decide that a law is unconstitutional and refuse to convict on those grounds. However it only applies to that single case and does not overturn the law. The only branch invested with the power to decale laws in total or in part unconstitutional as a matter of law. is the USSC

[RamsNo1]

Oh, is that supposed to be a cute little way of cutting down someone who is just expressing their point of view? You seem to have your say enough times as I have lately. Seems to me that used to be a part of the first amendment.

How do you like it when the US pays ransom to terrorists? Does that sound like a good plan to you? Come on, you've had your say on so much, please advise me on money to the Abu Sayyaf.

[nunya bidness]

The veto like the executive order is only as permanent as the person's time in office.

This is the specific statement that I'm asking for a source on.

Take your time. I don't have a dog in this fight but you usually provide better sources to support your claims.

[Miss Marple]

Yes, his disinterest in the House and Senate is why he is going to South Carolina tomorrow morning to raise MONEY for their candidates.

[Miss Marple]

Leaving for the evening. See you later!

[RamsNo1]

I am sorry, Miss Marple, but little old me out here in the wilds of Utah did not join a mysterious and secretive chorus of people who met to orchestrate a campaign against Bush.

[Wphile]

Please advise me on money to Abu Sayyaf

Actually, the story is in dispute. So far, only FOX NEWS has reported on it and all from unnamed sources. The Phillipines are denying it and the US Embassy is sticking to the policy of no money to kidnappers. So, who knows at this point?

[RamsNo1]

One year from now, if we have a republican senate and house, just see how many conservative issues that Bush will push. I don't think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Why should he care? He will be getting ready for a re-election campaign, himself and won't want to stir up trouble. All these great conservative things that people say he will do once there is a full republican majority on capitol hill is pure lunacy. He will go around the country making speeches and preserving his poll numbers until re-election time.

[olliemb]

You are so wrong. Gingrich is great!! Forget about his personal problems--he still has a great mind and he always puts things in great perspective.

[olliemb]

change the tone, please.

[TLBSHOW]

How do you know that?

[TLBSHOW]

If he gives the right speech for the right reason he will win big. This is all about Free Speech. Nothing else.

[nunya bidness]

You didn't even read what the exchange was about.

[TLBSHOW]

He hasn't signed it yet I heard. Have you heard something different about this than I have?

[TLBSHOW]

What do you want Bush to do and why?

[Texasforever]

I found it in my Blacks Law dictionary and am trying to avoid tearing out the page to scan it. If I can't I will transcribe it and you can check for yourself.