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To: demnomo
Yep, married; yep, children; nope, not a mister! And yes, I do believe that there are many more men capable of this sort of act. MEN ARE NOT LIKE WOMEN. THEY ARE BUILT (inside and out) COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. But I do not believe that most men would snap just because "their wives weren't treating them right" or because they see government laws meant to protect families from abuse interfering with their personal lives. I am saying that when women strip men of their masculinity, then hold them hostage financially, deprive them of being fathers to their children, humiliate and torment them, all with government approval, so that the men cannot fight back, eventually they may snap. Obviously, the vast majority do not get to that point; they just go through their lives feeling miserable, demasculated, manipulated, used, and broke.

I'm not making any excuses in this particular case. As quitwhining has shown, it may be that this horrendous thing has happened to a decent, caring woman, by a sick, deranged man. My point, though, is that that is not always the case. No excuses for this guy (yet why do you assume he was a "control freak"?) or for Andrea Yates. But if there is something we can do to lessen the number of times we hear of such incidences-like revamping our court family systems, and regaining respect for men for being men-we should take the opportunity of it being in our collective conscious's and act on it.

75 posted on 03/26/2002 3:25:18 PM PST by pillars
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To: pillars
Maybe you're right and this man snapped because he was being deprived of his daughter by his ex-wife.

Now explain why he killed three other children who weren't his. Do you believe he was being deprived of his ex-step children?
79 posted on 03/26/2002 3:36:36 PM PST by flyervet
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To: pillars
Why do I assume he was a control-freak? Because he murdered his own child and the children of his ex-wife in order to get back at her!!! That's power. That's control--at least to a person who wants revenge against another human being in the most terrifying and hurtful way possible. I can't imagine anything more wicked than to hurt another person by murdering their young children. It's pretty obvious.

Oh, and another thing, a truly decent, manly man wouldn't have done this in the first place, nor would he have killed himself in a last cowardly act no matter how awful his ex-wife may have treated him. I am a stay-at-home Mom who homeschools and believes that my husband is the head of our Christian household. Your belief that wives can cause men to become evil is just another excuse--almost as bad as those awful Femi-Nazi's who mistakenly believe that men and women think and are alike. (Actual wife and husband abusers use the excuse that their spouse drove them to it all the time.) There is one thing that every human being is alike in--we are free to choose between good and evil. This ex-husband chose sin and wickedness by murdering children.

83 posted on 03/26/2002 3:48:19 PM PST by demnomo
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