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If McDonalds told you they deserve your money you would laugh at them. and then turn right around and scold others for not blindly supporting your guy.

I saw that lame attempt at an analogy on another thread it makes no more sense on this one that it did on the other. Now here is my position just so we are clear

I don't care if you vote for Bush or not and am not trying to change your mind

When I read the McConnell analysis earlier I stated that the bill is bad and that Bush should veto it

I like analysis and the possible reasons for why the Administration may be doing this but I am not projecting them onto Bush as his motives.

I believe in the framework the Founders put in place to handle the laws that we must obey or be protected from

I don't like people that cannot argue from facts and confuse debate with taking the most extreme position possible and then demanding that someone else prove them wrong

I also don’t really care if Bush is re-elected or not. I will vote for him but we will survive if he is not.

I don't like people that cannot argue from facts and confuse debate with taking the most extreme position possible and then demanding that someone else prove them wrong

Have you lost your mind? Not signing an UnConstitutional bill is "taking the most extreme position possible and then demanding that someone else prove them wrong"

Come on.. I can't believe you said that to me.

Look. I have said everything I think on the subject and I firmly believe I am right.

I think we are going to have to dissagree here.

I really believe this is an impasse, because I can't change my mind on this. It's the Constitution.

It's the First Amendment.