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To: Jorge
Well I have two White parents and she has one, but I consider her no less White than I am."

Halle looks Black.

Halle looks mixed and far more white than a full blooded black. Simply put, Halle Berry wouldn't fit in National Geographic's Africa documentary.

Neither would most Black Americans, myself definitely included. Still, I am Black and so is Halle.

Halle thinks of herself as Black. Halle is Black. Reality check. Halle is whatever her parent were. Which in this case, half white and half black.

There usually isn't a box where one can check "mixed race," and even if there is, she can check any box she pleases.

What you "think" you are doesn't determined your genes.(duh) Halle made history tonight- that wouldn't have been so if she were White. When will you feel your race is equal enough that such an accomplishment is an individual achievement?

Of course it is an individual achievement but let's not pretend that a Black has won a best actress Oscar before.

I find it really sad that some still have to look at these sorts of things in terms of blacks struggling for recognition.

Who said anything about Blacks struggling for recognition? I already have my BA degree and job- Halle's win is unlikely to make me do anything I haven't already done in life.

It reminds me of something I read about wealthy black atheletes, who somehow still cannot see themselves as part of the upper "rich" class of Americans. This seems to indicate that these sort of black inferiority complexes are not rooted in being oppressed or deprived at all...but rather just being black.

What these athletes understand is that they can be upper class all they want but they're still Black. That doesn't have to be a bad thing but it ain't gonna change history.

This is wrong. You should like yourself and being black just as whites like themselves and like being white.

You don't know me that well do you? If any black person on FR likes themselves and likes being Black I do. My being glad that a Black actress finally won a best actress Oscar sure doesn't cancel that out and if you think it does you have a lot to learn.

2,211 posted on 03/24/2002 10:12:34 PM PST by mafree
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To: mafree
"Halle looks mixed and far more white than a full blooded black. Simply put, Halle Berry wouldn't fit in National Geographic's Africa documentary."

Neither would most Black Americans, myself definitely included. Still, I am Black and so is Halle.

Well I guess it must have confused people to hear Halle running on and on about her accomplishment as a "black" actress when the camera kept flashing back to Halle's WHITE MOTHER sitting in the audience.LOL!

Of course the idea that anyone who is part black and part white must be classified as black... follows the white racist mentality that to have ANY non-white blood corrupts your racial purity..therefore you cannot be white.
It's a racist and bigoted tradition which unfortunately many blacks are carrying on.

In any case the truth remains that Halle is half black and half white. The white half won the Oscar.

2,337 posted on 03/26/2002 7:02:34 PM PST by Jorge
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To: mafree
"I find it really sad that some still have to look at these sorts of things in terms of blacks struggling for recognition."

Who said anything about Blacks struggling for recognition? I already have my BA degree and job- Halle's win is unlikely to make me do anything I haven't already done in life.

Halle said something about "blacks struggling for recognition"........in fact she seemed satisfied to be nothing more than a token for black recognition at the Oscars. That's all she talked about.

"It reminds me of something I read about wealthy black atheletes, who somehow still cannot see themselves as part of the upper "rich" class of Americans. This seems to indicate that these sort of black inferiority complexes are not rooted in being oppressed or deprived at all...but rather just being black."

What these athletes understand is that they can be upper class all they want but they're still Black. That doesn't have to be a bad thing but it ain't gonna change history.

What does HISTORY have to do with it?
Bill Gates went from being a nerd to the richest man in the world.
Should he sit around thinking...I am not "upper class" because my history is that I was just a nerd...?
I don't think so!
If I were a rich black athelete...I think I'de say screw history, and everybody else who is hung up on it..

"This is wrong. You should like yourself and being black just as whites like themselves and like being white."

You don't know me that well do you? If any black person on FR likes themselves and likes being Black I do. My being glad that a Black actress finally won a best actress Oscar sure doesn't cancel that out and if you think it does you have a lot to learn.

Actually I was talking about the black atheletes who are multi-millionaires yet admittedly still cannot see themselves as part of the "upper class". That was the context of my comment.
I wasn't talking about you specifically.

If you have the good sense to like yourself, including your heritage and race...regardless of history or the views of others...then I say good for you.
And I tend to believe you... since FR isn't a place where I expect you would find the PC treatment of race issues...and the white liberal condescending and patronizing treatment of blacks. (gag)
I'de say you probably have to have a pretty well balanced and secure self image to handle to FR style of dealing with these issues.
In any case I've enjoyed your posts.

2,339 posted on 03/26/2002 7:42:45 PM PST by Jorge
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