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To: mafree
I was offended by your remarks because you seemed to be implying that the product of two Black parents couldn't be beautiful in your eyes.

When I say that, then you can be offended. But I didn't say that - I said Halle (as an individual woman) would not be as beautiful as she is if both her parents were black. There are plenty of beautiful all-black women - but they don't look like Halle. Her beauty is different. White people cannot claim it as white beauty any more than black people can claim it as black beauty - it's her very own. It's Halle's beauty.
She's mixed race, and I think that contributes immeasureably to her beauty. It's backwards to try to fit an octogon into the square hole of one race or the other. Only racists like herself and you feel the need. Some of us can accept her as she is -- neither white not black, but herself.

2,016 posted on 03/24/2002 8:56:52 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Quick question:

Did you know that she was biracial before you learned she had a white mother? There are plenty of blacks who are just as light or lighter than Berry yet have two black parents. Keep in mind that it was her white mom who told her that she would be seen as a black woman...no one would certainly mistake her for a white person.

2,041 posted on 03/24/2002 9:01:38 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: ValerieUSA
You go too far in accusing her of racism. The New Zealanders and Australians make much of being from where they're from. If an American actor or actress of Irish, or Jewish or Italian ancestry wins they might make an acknowledgement of other actors or actresses of that background who inspired them. Less now than they might have in previous years perhaps, but it's only a part of life.

Halle Berry did go on for too long, both about race and in general, but an acknowledgement of thanks to those who came before isn't out of place, whether among Blacks or Hispanics or WASPs or Coppolas or Australians or Americans. Ultimately our identity comes from being individuals, but a sense of heritage or background is still a part of who we are. There's more dignity in leaving the question of ethnicity aside and letting others say what they will about it, but talking about it is perfectly understandable.

If Halle were going to go on for so long she probably should have added to her remarks a gesture to the larger community, but "racism" is not an accurate reflection of what happened. In the case of Halle and Denzel, what they said -- and he showed great dignity in keeping race out of his remarks -- is more a milestone on the way to assimilation than a sign of increasing or enduring separatism.

2,129 posted on 03/24/2002 9:23:38 PM PST by x
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To: ValerieUSA
Only racists like herself and you feel the need..

Now elaborate on why Halle or I are racists.

We are both Black women and we identify as Black. She has a white parent; my white ancestry goes further back. I have some Native American in me and I don't doubt that Halle does too. Still, I look Black and so does Halle. She seems to be comfortable with being Black and so am I- if that makes us racists then I'll be your racist 24/7.

2,133 posted on 03/24/2002 9:25:06 PM PST by mafree
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