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Britain accused on terror lab claim, Story of find in Afghan cave 'was made up'...
The Guardian - UK ^ | March 24, 2002 | Peter Beaumont and Ed Vulliamy

Posted on 03/24/2002 1:02:24 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Britain was accused last night of falsely claiming that al-Qaeda terrorists had built a 'biological and chemical weapons' laboratory in Afghanistan to justify the deployment of 1,700 Royal Marines to fight there.

The allegation follows a Downing Street briefing by a senior official to newspapers on Friday which claimed US forces had discovered a biological weapons laboratory in a cave in eastern Afghanistan after fighting near the city of Gardez this month.

A 'senior Whitehall source' gave detailed claims of how American soldiers had found the cave following heavy fighting for al-Qaeda positions around the village of Shah-e-Kot.

One report quoted the source as saying: 'We know from documents found in Kabul and the lab in the cave that Osama bin Laden has acquired a chemical and biological weapons capability.'

The newspapers reported that the find was one of the main reasons the Government had decided to send the Marines to Afghanistan to fight al-Qaeda and Taliban forces. The claim, carried by a number of newspapers yesterday, was denied emphatically last night by Pentagon and State Department sources.

A White House spokesman, drawn into the row, said 'no evidence' had yet been uncovered in Afghanistan that Al Qaeda had succeeded in producing anthrax or other biological or chemical agents.

A Pentagon official told The Observer there was no intelligence to support claims from London that al-Qaeda was developing biological weapons in the Shah-e-Kot area. 'I don't know what they're saying in London but we have received no specific intelligence on that kind of development or capability in the Shah-e-Kot valley region - I mean a chemical or biological weapons facility,' said an official in the Army department in Washington.

The US rebuttal came as Opposition spokesmen demanded that Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon address the House of Commons to 'clarify' the claims, amid growing backbench unrest about the way in which the decision to send the marines was made.

The first of them are due to arrive in Kabul in the next few days to join US combat troops already fighting on the ground, amid concern among MPs about the 'open ended' nature of their mission.

Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman Menzies Campbell, who called for Hoon to make a statement, said: 'The House will feel, with some justification, that this claim was leaked to the media to justify the deployment after the event.

'There are too many unanswered questions about the military justification for this deployment and growing unease. Mr Hoon owes the House a clarification."

The Tories demanded that Downing Street stick strictly to the truth in its efforts to promote the military campaign. 'Spinning doesn't work for the NHS, so why do they think it is going to work for the war on terrorism?' said Bernard Jenkin, Shadow Defence Secretary.

Doubts about the story surfaced almost immediately after it was published, as US officials first expressed bafflement and then denied any such lab had been found. Some speculating to the New York Times that the story might have been planted to justify the deployment of the marines. British intelligence, Ministry of Defence and Foreign Office sources denied any knowledge of the lab.

The only evidence of a biological weapons laboratory was the discovery last December of an abandoned, half-finished building containing medical equipment, near the Taliban's former power base of Kandahar in southern Afghanistan. This had been reported previously.

The Observer has established that the source of the claims was an off-the-record briefing by Tony Blair's senior foreign policy adviser, David Manning.

A Downing Street spokesman said it 'stuck by the thrust of the story' - that it had evidence al-Qaeda was 'interested' in acquiring such weapons. But Manning had 'not actually told' reporters a cave lab had been discovered.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; biowarfare; bioweapons; britain; britishfriends; cave; lab; talibanlist; warlist
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1 posted on 03/24/2002 1:02:25 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
To be quite honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the story was made up. I also wouldn't be surprised if the leak of the discredited story about a nuke in NYC was a calculated, propagandistic act on the part of the Administration. This is war, and the government is busy managing public opinion, keeping us ginned up for the battle ahead while doing what it can to minimize panic and economic uncertainty. This is what governments do in war time. Thus mythical germ factories in far-away Afghanistan and past-tense nuclear false alarms serve as proxies for the real and concrete threat that was spelled out in very simple terms in the letters to Daschle and Brokaw.
2 posted on 03/24/2002 1:21:34 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
To be quite honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the story was made up.

And you think it is alright because that is what governments do in time of war
Well in a republic the government supposed exists at the behest of the people . So this should NOT be acceptable
4 posted on 03/24/2002 4:44:29 AM PST by uncbob
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To: *Taliban_list;*War_list;*BritishFriends;*Bio_Warfare;Black Jade
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5 posted on 03/24/2002 9:37:36 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Black Jade
It isn't the government promoting the theory that the anthrax came from Saddam Hussein. I deduced that all by myself, thank you very much. On the contrary, it is the FBI that has been feeding the press pablum about "an unmarried loner with scientific training." (The FBI's profiler knows he's unmarried, because otherwise his wife would have turned him in -- see?). The question is, why are they are feeding us this BS? Why did they not tell us for six months that one of the 9-11 hijackers was actually treated for cutaneous anthrax? Well, I guess that's for the authorities to know, and for us to figure out.
7 posted on 04/07/2002 11:09:42 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
They are either with us or against us. Why do they need an excuse to support policy that is right.
8 posted on 04/07/2002 11:09:52 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Black Jade
Why should we believe any story that comes out of a government with a history of consistant lying and which holds that it is acceptable to lie to "manage public opinion"?

In general, I don't. My assumption is that the administration is primarily interested in preserving the security and prosperity of the United States and, if they believe that lies-of-omission, shading or spinning of the truth, or "white lies" will further those objectives, they will do it.

9 posted on 04/07/2002 11:12:21 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan; Black Jade
Did you both read the claim made on a BBC program and reported by the BBC news that the letter sent anthrax was a CIA stunt gone bad?
10 posted on 04/07/2002 11:16:07 PM PDT by Spar
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To: Spar
Yes, BS from Barbara (Nut)hatch Rosenberg. Same old same old.
11 posted on 04/07/2002 11:17:35 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Black Jade
BTTT!!!!!
12 posted on 04/08/2002 3:27:02 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Black Jade; The Great Satan; SANDNES; vooch
This is clearly just a case of being caught out. Usually, the British govt is asked to provide its Orwell-esque spin, just as Alastair Campbell being dispatched to Brussels and Nato HQ in times of 'need'. Sometimes the spinmeisters throw one into the mix for good measure, even when not specifically commissioned.

Thanks for the flag Black Jade.

14 posted on 04/08/2002 5:42:52 AM PDT by Kate22
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To: Black Jade
"Why should we believe any story that comes out of a government with a history of consistant lying and which holds that it is acceptable to lie to "manage public opinion"?"

Because jr. is equivalent to Soloman? There was a Thread on that. Of course, the idolators are still trying to decipher what he said.

15 posted on 04/08/2002 6:33:41 AM PDT by rdavis84
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Why should we believe any story that comes out of a government with a history of consistant lying and which holds that it is acceptable to lie to "manage public opinion"?

Amen.

16 posted on 04/08/2002 7:36:24 AM PDT by mafree
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is typical Guardian (ultra-leftist) spin and distortion. The only evidence the story was "made up" as they claim is the US military not confirming the report.

Even at that it is word games -- that there is no evidence biological weapons capability was acheived -- very different from finding lab equipment meant to be used in an attempt to make weapons.

Take home lesson -- the Guardian is not an honest straightforward source.

It is understandable ultra-leftist anti-American posters like Black Jade and others will use the Guardian's distorted agenda based reports as fodder.

17 posted on 04/08/2002 9:19:18 AM PDT by tallhappy
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