[cincinnati65]

Yeah, but the message of the film was how when Toby Maguire was young and naive, abortion was wrong. But when he "grew up" and matured, he naturally saw that there was a proper place for abortion in this world.

And don't forget Delroy Lindo's speech "The people that made up them rules don't have to live in this cider house. They don't gotta live by them rules. We gone tear down them rules and make our own rules." It doesn't get more liberal than that, in my mind.

[over3Owithabrain]

Agreed about the overall abortion message - it was awful! But if anyone gave a thought to that one line, it would blow any argument for abortion out of the water. Michael Caine's character was a bitter old druggie - you know, the usual liberal hero, hating life and unable to find peace and the will to conquer evil.

As to Lindo's "cider house" speech, one could interpret that as some kind of crude parallel to the attitude of our Founding Fathers towards the tyranny of England.

All in all, though, the movie bit - and left me feeling sullen and depressed. No wonder it was such a hit with the libs!

[Melas]

And don't forget Delroy Lindo's speech "The people that made up them rules don't have to live in this cider house. They don't gotta live by them rules. We gone tear down them rules and make our own rules." It doesn't get more liberal than that, in my mind.

? Are you crazy? Seems to me that I remember a people who got sick and tired of living under some rules that were made an ocean away by people who didn't have to live under those rules themselves. See: American Revolution

Seems to me that I remember an important part of the Contract of America that said that the rule makers could not exempt themselves from the rules, as they had done before. Read: FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;

I fail to see the liberalism here at all.