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New Flight 93 Rolling Stone Article-Mark Bingham 9/11 Hero Described as 'Proud, Gay &..REPUBLICAN!!'
Rolling Stone Magazine (Current Issue with Shakira on cover) ^ | April 11, 2002 Issue | Randall Sullivan and Various Fight 93 family members

Posted on 03/22/2002 7:55:50 AM PST by codebreaker

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To: foreverfree
but that does not change the apparent fact that he was leading an abhorrent lifestyle

No, it doesn't. But what is your point in how it relates to what happened on that flight?

41 posted on 03/22/2002 9:56:14 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: drjimmy
Then I assume it would have been okay with you if he had wanted to marry his partner and adopt some kids, like any other American has the right to do.

Take my advice: Do not go there.

42 posted on 03/22/2002 9:59:42 AM PST by Houmatt
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To: texlok
Some people are obsessed with what others do in their bedrooms, kinda gives me the creeps.

Your comment cuts both ways: after all, somebody felt it urgently necessary to inform us that Mark Bingham was gay.

43 posted on 03/22/2002 9:59:44 AM PST by r9etb
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To: N. Theknow
I no doubt will get flamed for saying this, so bring it on:

1. Four groups of airline passengers on 9/11 allowed themselves to be cowed, herded, and essentially captured by very small groups of goat-smelling bastards armed only with boxcutters.

2. The crash of Flight 93 apparently was caused by the futile attempts of a handful of passengers who acted only after they learned that they were facing imminent and certain death as riders of a missile aimed at a Washington, D.C. landmark. They clearly had nothing to lose by trying to re-capture the cockpit after it was far too late to do so with any expectation of success.

3. This creation and adulation of "heroes" is both nauseating and akin to an entire nation and its leaders believing in Santa Claus.

4. Largely overlooked is the fact that the fate of four airliners on 9/11 stands as a shameful testament to the degree to which the people of this Nation largely have been:

(a) turned into a citizenry too-widely populated by emasculated sheep;

(b) spoon-fed and have bought into propoganda disseminated by Government "security experts" who for decades now have been preaching that hijacked passengers should meekly submit to their captors so that "nobody will get hurt; and

(c) under the influence of years of poisonning by a liberal leadership at all levels of government, feminists, peaceniks, politically-correct socialists, and the mind-rotting mass media, dumbed-down and stripped of any warrior spirit that ever existed in America's better days.

We really should wake up and smell the reality that America on many fronts has become a nation of wusses. The terrorists knew and continue to know this and correctly predicted that the horror of 9/11 would be inflicted on this Nation without their having to fire a shot.

Despite the ass-kicking they have received at the hands of the best and the bravest of us who proudly wear the uniforms of American soldiers, sailors, and airmen, these religiously fanatical servants of Satan apparently have been emboldened to carry out yet more attacks on American citizens and interests around the world.

One can only pray that we Americans now have more resolve and perspective concerning our mortality, vulnerability, and weaknesses to successfully redeem ourselves from the national shame that should have been trumpeted from the housetops since 9/11.

I love this country and believe that it was established under the hand of the Almighty to serve as His earthly base of operations in these latter days. And I pray that we all will seek His guidance and protection and a sense of purpose and destiny.

And as the for "heroism" over the skys of America on that fateful September morning, I can only say -- "Lets' Roll," my @ss.....

44 posted on 03/22/2002 10:03:46 AM PST by tracer
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To: Khepera
I'm sorry but I'm missing your point. Could you clarify?

Point is, I believe I've seen you advocate jailing homosexuals. Under your regime, Bingham would have been sitting in prison instead of acting in a heroic fashion on 9/11. As if that isn't enough, it appears Bingham was also a fellow conservative.

Does that lead you to rethink your position?

45 posted on 03/22/2002 10:03:53 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: GSWarrior
No, it doesn't. But what is your point in how it relates to what happened on that flight?

It doesn't. What are you and texlok, gay apologists, or maybe queers yourselves?

foreverfree

46 posted on 03/22/2002 10:06:32 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: tracer
Re points 1 and 2.

Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

47 posted on 03/22/2002 10:06:37 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: foreverfree
What are you and texlok, gay apologists, or maybe queers yourselves

Worse. Libertarian.

48 posted on 03/22/2002 10:10:22 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: codebreaker
Anyone wonder how the media would play it if it were discovered that one of the Flight 93 resisters was a Grand Koogle or whatever in his local KKK chapter?
49 posted on 03/22/2002 10:15:21 AM PST by rdww
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To: foreverfree
I'm not obsessed, just concerned. If Bingham was a hero on that plane, I'm glad he was, but that does not change the apparent fact that he was leading an abhorrent lifestyle, apparently to his end in a Pennsylvania mountainside, right?

No, but the fact that he was gay has nothing to do with what he did on that plane

Would you have preferred he not do anything?

50 posted on 03/22/2002 10:17:14 AM PST by texlok
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To: tracer
And don't forget tracer, that those passengers used their cellphones while in flight (the scofflaws!)
51 posted on 03/22/2002 10:17:32 AM PST by rdww
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To: foreverfree
It doesn't. What are you and texlok, gay apologists, or maybe queers yourselves?

Good comeback. Does your teacher know you're playing on the internet, or has junior high let out for the day?

52 posted on 03/22/2002 10:17:45 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: r9etb
Your comment cuts both ways: after all, somebody felt it urgently necessary to inform us that Mark Bingham was gay.

That is true, but somebody also felt it necessary to mention that he was a Republican.

To be honest, as far as I'm concerned, I don't care if he was homo, hetero, or a-sexual, I don't care if he was Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, or belonged to some UFO cult.

I care that he and a couple of others did the right thing when it counted the most.

53 posted on 03/22/2002 10:19:49 AM PST by texlok
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To: rdww
The irony of this would be amusing if it were not so horrifically tragic. Airline safety, indeed.....
54 posted on 03/22/2002 10:20:58 AM PST by tracer
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To: tracer
I've thought of this too, but keep in mind previous hijackings have involved taking the airplane somewhere and making some demands in exchange for the release of the passengers. Using planes to destroy buildings is a new phenomenon. Heck, according to an OBL tape and other evidence, most of the hijackers thought they were going to safely land at an airport!
55 posted on 03/22/2002 10:21:06 AM PST by mn12
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To: NittanyLion
*chuckle*

foreverfree

P.S. HINT: I'm 40 years old.

56 posted on 03/22/2002 10:22:22 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: foreverfree
If Bingham was a hero on that plane, I'm glad he was, but that does not change the apparent fact that he was leading an abhorrent lifestyle

Frankly, his private life is none of your d@mn business and it's very arrogant of you to think you have the right to interject your judgment of his 'lifestyle', especially posthumously.

57 posted on 03/22/2002 10:22:38 AM PST by tdadams
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To: FreeTally
No doubt it was shot down.

So you just choose to ignore the observations made by those on the plane about a bomb?

You choose to believe it was shot down because you say some people "saw and heard fighters" yet you don't reference those people?

Sorry, no sale.

58 posted on 03/22/2002 10:26:45 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: foreverfree; NittanyLion
P.S. HINT: I'm 40 years old.

But free to act like he's 14.

59 posted on 03/22/2002 10:28:55 AM PST by tdadams
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To: foreverfree
I think we are on the same side on this issue. (Maybe not.) Bingham's preferences are irrelevant to what happened on that flight. So is his political affiliation. Those who trumpet or cover up such things are using a tragedy to further their agendas. But that's what they do.

Whether one finds his sexual preference abhorent is a completely different subject.

60 posted on 03/22/2002 10:29:02 AM PST by GSWarrior
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