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I absolutely do see your point, but we are talking about a cultural phenomena here and I am free to debate the effects of it if I see them as being harmful to the society which I inhabit, which I know doubt think you would agree I have a right to do. It's the activity in the public square I am now alarmed about, not the activity in the rooms upstairs at the dockside publik house, if you see my point. (and I know you know there is a vast difference). V's wife.

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which I know doubt no doubt.