Is Fred on target, or what?
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To: SwinusMaximus
Well, aside from his rather absurd conclusions that a nuclear blast might only level a few blocks and that Cleveland is slightly less-guarded than Manhattan (like it would matter), he's close. I think the problem with portable nukes is that we wouldn't know who to blame. It could very well be the Saudis ... or the Egyptians ... or the Iranians ... or whoever. The real question remains: If you're going to nuke these countries to slag, where do you stop?
2 posted on
03/18/2002 4:27:06 PM PST by
Bush2000
To: SwinusMaximus
"or what"
3 posted on
03/18/2002 4:31:03 PM PST by
CGASMIA68
To: SwinusMaximus
Let's just say that you won't be hearing any similar sentiments being voiced on CNN, NBC, CBS or even FOX News. He is just saying what Bush and his team would LIKE to say, but can't, for fear of appearing 'hysterical'. I like Fred. You can get his weekly column e-mailed if you visit his site.
5 posted on
03/18/2002 4:37:11 PM PST by
pariah
To: SwinusMaximus
Looks pretty close from RightWhale's point of view. One nuked city would be tough on the whole country. 3 nuked cities would be disaster and very difficult to deal with, but not total devastation. Recovery would come, but in time, not quickly. And that is America, which would be able to cope with such things to a degree. Any other country would be devastated.
To: SwinusMaximus
Both can happen; i.e., the Soviets or Chicoms or North Koreans
can indeed be planning to nuke us
and various terrorists also. Indeed, it would be a feasible gambit for, say, North Korea to plant a nuke and provide a false trail to some terrorist group.
Either or both.
I happen to believe that it is now inevitable that an American city will disappear; the only questions are 'when' and 'which city?'
Robert Heinlein, writing just after WW II, predicted that America would have to become a police state, with checkpoints at all major cities--every point of entry--to preclude smuggling in a bomb. IMHO it is amazing it has taken this long for his prediciton to come (almost) true. I believe the piece was If This Goes On....
--Boris
7 posted on
03/18/2002 4:38:58 PM PST by
boris
To: SwinusMaximus
Click HERE for Fred's homepage.
8 posted on
03/18/2002 4:42:10 PM PST by
pariah
To: SwinusMaximus
With the Kennedyesque sweep of the Cuban missile crisis, if we're so hit, we'll regard it as an attack on the United States by all 7 countries named in the recent nuclear posture review. Let them know the consequences from the outset. That should at least diminish the odds a bit.
10 posted on
03/18/2002 4:45:18 PM PST by
onedoug
To: SwinusMaximus
"The Moslem world would do well to bear this in mind. There are lines one doesn't cross,...."The mistake of this country has always been to assume its enemies are "rational".
Were the attacks on 9/11 committed by "rational" minds? I think not.
13 posted on
03/18/2002 4:47:05 PM PST by
elbucko
To: SwinusMaximus
Click
HERE for Fred's homepage.
15 posted on
03/18/2002 4:47:58 PM PST by
pariah
To: SwinusMaximus
The essence of a defensive posture is decentralization. Centralization is evidence of the assumption of an offensive position. The intensity of centralization of our economy (in New York) and the command and control structure of the government (in Wash. DC) creates obvious weaknesses in a world in which technology has tipped the scales in favor of defense. The world is non-linear. Consider the results of perhaps half a million dollars spent to carry out 9-11 versus the billions to prosecute the war in Afghanistan.
To: SwinusMaximus
"Those imbued with it argue that that the Russians plot a nuclear first-strike on the United States."The Russians did plan a nuclear first-strike and they came very close to pushing the button, because they believed the liberal media lies that Reagan was planning a first strike. Not fantasy, reality.
22 posted on
03/18/2002 5:01:06 PM PST by
Kermit
To: SwinusMaximus
A nuclear event in American does not have to happen. Remember what President Bush said at the SOTU address. "We will not wait on events..." I believe that a pre-emptive strike on countries like Iraq are inevitable. We are not going to wait for an American city to disappear before doing what needs to be done. And what needs to be done is a re-colonization of most of the Middle East by the Western powers. Look for Russia to be a big part of this as well. There are some countries in the world who simply should not be allowed by the civilized world to have nuclear capability.
To: SwinusMaximus
Actually Cleveland would be the ideal place to cause the most terror since there are 20 million people downwind.
BUMP
24 posted on
03/18/2002 5:09:37 PM PST by
tm22721
To: SwinusMaximus
Bump (for later)
NeverGore
To: SwinusMaximus
If Iraq had the means to deliver a nuke to the US it would do it. If Islamic groups had the chance, they would do it. If any of them had the chance, they would do it. ANY QUESTIONS?
To: SwinusMaximus
For the love of Pete ..... there are tooooo
many "damned yankee's" movin' south as it is !
Please, let them "hit" KALI !! Keep North Carolina Conservative !
Snoot ;o)
To: SwinusMaximus
Moslem
I stopped reading after the unnecessary misspelling. I never ever not EVER trust someone who thinks they sound smarter because the find some esoteric misspelling of a word. Its Muslim.
40 posted on
03/18/2002 7:35:47 PM PST by
jurisdog
To: SwinusMaximus
Whatever you think of Fred's opinion, he makes the point of why the US will attack Iraq, and soon. After 9/11, I can easily imagine the terrorists using a nuke on an American city, if they get their hands on one.
41 posted on
03/18/2002 8:24:19 PM PST by
TheDon
To: SwinusMaximus
Bullseye.
To: SwinusMaximus
A police state like the one he describes as 'right wing' sounds more like what the leftists want.
51 posted on
03/18/2002 8:58:40 PM PST by
GeronL
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