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Dead Man Flying?
ABC News ^ | 3/18/02 | Some AP writer

Posted on 03/18/2002 3:46:22 PM PST by rdww

FAA Probes Case of 80-Year-Old Iowa Man in Wheelchair Who May Have Died Before Boarding Flight

DES MOINES, Iowa March 18 —
An 80-year-old passenger was pronounced dead at the end of an airline flight, and authorities say it is possible he had already died when he was taken on board in his wheelchair.

James Walsh was found dead Saturday after arriving at Des Moines International Airport on the America West Express flight from Phoenix. He had a history of heart and kidney-related problems.

A report by the Polk County medical examiner's office said members of the flight crew reported that he looked "kind of stiff" and didn't move during the trip.

The report also said Walsh's daughter-in-law told investigators his fingertips were turning purple and she couldn't find his pulse, but when a flight attendant checked on Walsh the daughter-in-law told her he was "just sedated, sleeping and had a pulse."

After they landed at Des Moines, Walsh's son, Mark Walsh of Green Valley, Ariz., wheeled his father into the terminal and was met by his sister, a registered nurse. The sister said he was dead at that time, and he was later declared dead at a hospital.

The medical examiner's office report said Mark Walsh told investigators he was "pretty much convinced he died in the airport terminal in Phoenix."

There was no immediate explanation why Mark Walsh took his father onto the plane if he suspected the man had died. There was no comment from him Monday; he has no listed phone number in Green Valley.

Phoenix-based America West Express was satisfied that Walsh, who lived in Des Moines, was alive when he boarded, spokeswoman Patty Nowack said Sunday.

"We never would have allowed a passenger who had passed away to board an aircraft," she said.

Walsh was seated next to his son and daughter-in-law on the Boeing 737 with about 100 passengers on board, Nowack said. She said she had not heard any passenger complaints about the flight.

The Federal Aviation Administration was looking into whether the airline and crew followed regulations, including whether there was enough medical equipment on board and whether the crew was trained to deal with a death. But an official said sanctions were unlikely.

"They're not anticipating any federal regulatory violations at this time," FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham-Cory said in Chicago.

Both the Des Moines and Phoenix police departments said they did not plan to investigate.

Walsh had been staying with his son and daughter-in-law near Phoenix for the winter and was receiving medical treatment, the medical examiner's report said. His family was bringing him back to Des Moines on a doctor's advice.

Under Iowa law, anyone other than a funeral director who transports a body between states would need a burial-transit permit from a county registrar or funeral director, said Carol Fleagle, executive director of the Iowa Funeral Directors Association.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: airseclist; deadwhiteguys; faa; flying
Oh gee, what to say? Either:

-- I didn't know they needed any extra Democratic voters in Iowa or Arizona.

-- Fortunately, Sky Marshalls were keeping a close watch on him the whole time.

1 posted on 03/18/2002 3:46:22 PM PST by rdww
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To: rdww
John Walsh doesn't happen to have the nickname of Bernie, does he?
2 posted on 03/18/2002 3:53:25 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: rdww
Tough way to get your 15 minutes.
3 posted on 03/18/2002 3:57:50 PM PST by Righty1
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To: rdww
How come I don't get quiet seatmates like this when I fly? I might actually get a book read or some work done. Usually though, I end up sitting next to some harried mother with a babbling out-of-control kid.
4 posted on 03/18/2002 3:58:08 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: rdww
I wonder if the security body cavity search put him over the edge...
5 posted on 03/18/2002 4:10:11 PM PST by null and void
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To: rdww
"Sir, have your bags been with you at all times? Did anyone ask you to carry a package for them? Sir? Sir? SIR?"
6 posted on 03/18/2002 4:13:27 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: rdww
What is the cost ratio of shipping a corpse as to that of a living, breathing passenger?
9 posted on 03/18/2002 4:51:05 PM PST by scouse
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To: rdww
Wonder if he'll still get credit for frequent flyer miles?
12 posted on 03/18/2002 5:01:38 PM PST by b4its2late
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To: rdww
Lordy, it's a epidemic! 'Nother one today?
13 posted on 03/18/2002 5:12:12 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Central Scrutiniser
There was an incident on Continental Micronesia a few months back on a flight from Majuro to Honolulu where some passengers complained about having to sit near a person who died.

Yes, I remember reading about that here on FR. It was during the crises when the Chinese rammed our aircraft then held it hostage. Does anybody have a copy of that posting? I regret now I didn't keep it.

14 posted on 03/18/2002 5:17:17 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rdww
Let me tell you, this incident could very easily lead to a serious international dispute of unimaginable proportions, sort of like when a person is born on an airplane of airline from country A flying from country B to country C while over the border between countries D and E, to parents from countries F and G, delivered by an onflight doctor (or attendant or innocent bystander,) who had been born in country H but is now in the process of emigrating from country I to country J. What country's citizenship does the newborn get, huh? It's like my cousin Bernie who was born on a Liberian cruise ship while sailing over Atlantis from Budapest, Hungary to Asuncion, Paraguay. (Full disclosure: in the end, due to the unsolveable citizenship puzzle, we never fully ascertained if Bernie was actually my cousin!)

What state can now legally claim the dead guy? What state wants to? With his bad luck the poor fellow could end up a stateless dead person. Don't laugh, you're hearing it from someone who's been there!

15 posted on 03/18/2002 5:34:57 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: rdww
I guess his illness was terminal. (Groan!)
16 posted on 03/18/2002 5:44:12 PM PST by Cleburne
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To: Righty1
What people in this nutty country won't do to get their names in the paper and their faces on telebision?! Everybody's looking to achieve nothing more than notoriety, the easiest way to riches. Next thing you know the guy will be appearing on telebision chat shows (Heck, Baba Wawa won't be able to tell he's dead since she's about good as dead herself!), signing $8 mill book contracts for books written in their entirety by some hapless ghostwriters and not just because he's dead, it because that's how the book business works nowadays! One thing for sure - he won't have to do a day's work for the rest of his life.
17 posted on 03/18/2002 6:16:10 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Cleburne
I guess his illness was terminal. (Groan!)

I hadn't realized security lines were that long...

18 posted on 03/18/2002 6:46:38 PM PST by supercat
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To: rdww
Popping in here with another thought... makes you feel really snug to know that all those airport security screeners are now qualified, watchful federal employees, eh?
19 posted on 03/19/2002 5:09:57 AM PST by rdww
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