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To: The_Reader_David
WHEN DID THE WEST FALL AWAY FROM ORTHODOXY
17 posted on 03/17/2002 8:11:57 PM PST by Spar
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To: Spar
At the very end of your linked article, it is mentioned that the condition of Russia after 1917 left the Russian state and the Russian Orthodox Church in the hands of those who called Nicholas and Alexandra "political criminals" and now that the soviets have receded, they may be regarded as saints or some such idea.

Certainly, Nicholas and Alexandra were Christians. Certainly they were Orthodox. Maybe, they were even saints. That they were regarded for so long as "political criminals" is a direct outgrowth of a terrible notion of governance: lay investiture of bishops. You would not have had to accept Roman appointments (and I feel confident you would not) of your bishops to avoid this. Could you not have convened synods beyond Russia's borders of Orthodox religious leaders to name some of your genuinely holy men to be Russian bishops? Otherwise, how do you avoid your ancient Church becoming a marionette of whoever happens to be running government?

Whatever the truth may have been as to Nicholas and Alexandra (and that truth may well have been sainthood), it did not change after their deaths according to which gang of Marxist hooligans happened to wield the most effective bunch of weapons from rifles to the battleship Aurora.

Did Tito also have a say in the appointment of Serbian Orthodox bishops in Serbia? Why? How do you choose bishops here since the US government is certainly prohibited by its own First Amendment from having a say in who your bishops will be.

I concede that I am not always respectful in my posts but these are, I think, fair questions and deserve candid answers.

19 posted on 03/17/2003 9:45:52 AM PST by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Ubi Petrus, Ibi Ecclesia! Roma Locuta, Causa Finita!)
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