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To: kosta50
You are literally the first person I have 'met' in my life that's complaining about the Serbian language. What do you suggest? That we re-introduce the slaveno-serbski? Tsrkveno-srpski?

If anyone should complain, it's gonna be the SANU. I don't see them complaining.

The only problem I see with the Serbian language is that it is being poisoned by the Latin alphabet. Public display of the Latin alphabet should be outlawed - just like English is outlawed in Quebec [shops that display English are subject to hefty fines!].

I don't have a problem with my language. Do you?

And save your "Communists taught you" BS for somebody else. Name one Yugoslav person who was born between 1945 and 1985 and hasn't been "taught" by the Communists.

14 posted on 03/16/2002 12:36:04 PM PST by Banat
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To: Banat
I am not complaining about the Serbian language, Banat. Please re-read what I wrote without emotion and you'll get the point. Vuk was not necessary, as you pointed out, and what he did wasn't all that great -- for the Serbian language. I may be the first to say so that you know of, but I am certainly not the only one.

Vuk did make Serbian simpler to write, but he went overboard -- for political reasons. Instead of a "j" he could have used "soft yer" (which he used to create Cyrillic "nj" and "lj" equivalents of the Croatian). So, "j" was an unnecessary and duplicitious addition. More importantly, he should have left the "yat" to preserve Serbian as a unified language regardless of the "narechye" (ekavski or iyekavski). With the alphabet as is today, with soft yer and a yat, Serbian would be 98% phonetic (vice 99%), and it would have been preserved as a unified language with one alphabet, characteristic of Serbs as a nation.

Two letters, Banat. That's it. The problem with Latin alphabet poisoning that you talk about would not be possible had Vuk's intentions been to truly reform the language for Serbs without introducing Yugoslav characteristics into it.

Personally, I think the esthetics of the alphabet would have been enhanced with the yer and the yat as well, but that's a matter of taste.

SANU doesn't go there because it is a highly emotional and explosive issue. Any attempt to reform the reformed language would be seen as a "nationalist" excess, and as "novogovor" the Croatians are criticized for.

In otherwords, Vuk is untouchable and his reforms are dogma that cannot possibly be improved on or critiqued. I disagree, but then I am just a lone voice challenging a myth.

If you love your language, as I do, you should try those two letters and see how they fit and look. The soft yer replaces the j, and yat replaces any word where e/iye difference eixsts (detsa, dete, lep, svet, etc.). I also think Serbian schools owe it to their children to teach them the old azbuka just so they can read some of the works older than those printed after Vuk's reforms took hold, rather than being told what they were all about. It would allow them to read (and comprehend substantial amounts of) Russian and Bulgarian text, modern and ancient.

All of us born in the period you mention were taught in communist schools. Some of us, however, questioned what we were thought. I am one of them. I have my own free will and I am not entirely a "product of the environment."

15 posted on 03/16/2002 5:28:53 PM PST by kosta50
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