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Winona's Uplifting, Not Shoplifting
FOX ^ | 3/14/02 | Roger Friedman

Posted on 03/14/2002 10:00:32 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It's been a helluva few days for actress Winona Ryder. Subjected to ridicule in every form since her arrest for allegedly shoplifting at Saks Fifth Avenue in Beverly Hills, Ryder has nevertheless comported herself like a champ. She's held her head high, made her court appearances, and did not stoop to the level of so many tabloid celebrities.


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1 posted on 03/14/2002 10:00:33 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So she's an "upbeat" thief? Very cute too, but still a thief.
2 posted on 03/14/2002 10:04:22 AM PST by dead
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To: Nobody in Particular
To be quite honest, I really couldn't care any less.
3 posted on 03/14/2002 10:04:39 AM PST by SGCOS
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Who?
4 posted on 03/14/2002 10:09:16 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: dead
So she's an "upbeat" thief? Very cute too, but still a thief.

I think that the point is that, at least according to the author of the article, she isn't a thief -- at least not guilty of shoplifting in this case.
5 posted on 03/14/2002 10:11:22 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: SGCOS
I'm with you. I do not understand the fascination people have (mostly women) with Hollywood "celebrities." They are self-important, vacuous and usually have nothing intelligent to say. I'll watch a movie here and there but I don't pay much attention to who the actors and actresses are in real life and really couldn't give a hoot about what they do when they aren't making movies.
6 posted on 03/14/2002 10:11:48 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: dead
What am I missing here? It sounds as though the video shows that she's not guilty of anything. There's more to the story?
7 posted on 03/14/2002 10:13:11 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Dimensio
So, she just forgot to pay for the stuff that she carried out of the store?
8 posted on 03/14/2002 10:13:37 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: dead
I don't get your meaning. The tape seems to indicate she wasn't doing any "thieving."

FWIW, I agree this is hardly the story of the decade, but OTOH I had a brother-in-law who some years ago while shopping in a department store was accosted by a store detective who detained him until police got there.

The claim was he'd filched a pair of sunglasses--which in fact were sitting on top of his head, and were so old they were scratched and bent.

He actually ended up settling a civil suit with the store out of court to the tune of about $40,000.

Mistakes do happen.

9 posted on 03/14/2002 10:13:39 AM PST by Illbay
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
So, she just forgot to pay for the stuff that she carried out of the store?

I don't presume to know the facts of the case, but the author claims that the videotape shows that she wasn't carrying out unpaid merchandise.
10 posted on 03/14/2002 10:14:59 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: Illbay
The tape seems to indicate she wasn't doing any "thieving."

She (allegedly) left the store with stuff she didn’t pay for.

This gossip columnist doesn’t really address that allegation at all. He just points out that she's friendly.

11 posted on 03/14/2002 10:16:41 AM PST by dead
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To: Illbay
I hope you meant that the store paid your BIL the forty grand, not the other way around...
12 posted on 03/14/2002 10:18:44 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Dimensio
I don't presume to know the facts of the case, but the author claims . . .

If you don't know the facts, you shouldn't rush to judgment and proclaim or imply she's innocent, should you?

Just leave it alone. She'll have her day in court. In the grand scheme of things the fact the author thinks the video fails to prove shoplifting doesn't mean spit, dies it?

13 posted on 03/14/2002 10:19:32 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Dimensio
While I claim NO knowledge of the case, the article says that the surveillance tape does not show the suspect doing anything illegal.

However, it does not say that the prosecution's case is built upon the surveillance tape. Hypothetically, she could have swiped stuff out of camera range, and been caught outside the store with stolen merchandise.

Innocent until proven guilty, to be sure, but have we so soon forgotten the liberal press who defended a president who was guilty of perjury?

14 posted on 03/14/2002 10:19:34 AM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Wow! Look at all the free publicity her new movie is getting.
15 posted on 03/14/2002 10:36:32 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Kevin Curry
If you don't know the facts, you shouldn't rush to judgment and proclaim or imply she's innocent, should you?

Classic Curryism

16 posted on 03/14/2002 10:42:58 AM PST by corkoman
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The tapes don't show inside dressing rooms where one could stuff things in to your own bags. The fact is that she walked out of the store with a number of items that she did not pay for. That is all that matters.
17 posted on 03/14/2002 10:51:04 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: dead
So she's an "upbeat" thief? Very cute too, but still a thief.

Help me out here.
Has she been convicted?
Or do you have a time machine?

18 posted on 03/14/2002 10:55:41 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Actually, the media has been reporting, (not that they get it right), that she charged thousands of dollars on credit cards during this shoping spree. So the picture is very confusing. Did she mix paid for and un paid for items?? We don't know.
19 posted on 03/14/2002 10:58:52 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Kevin Curry
you wrote: If you don't know the facts, you shouldn't rush to judgment and proclaim or imply she's innocent, should you?

Amazing, the way you have written this...no one need proclaim or imply anything...she is, in fact, innocent until *proven* guilty. You, on the other hand, with nothing but media reports (a media that is thoroughly trashed and discredited here and elsewhere) seem to be the one to have rushed to judgement.

20 posted on 03/14/2002 11:02:57 AM PST by dmz
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