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Regulation follies
The Washington Times ^ | March 13, 2002 | Peter Ferrara

Posted on 03/13/2002 9:08:39 AM PST by xsysmgr

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:38:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

While Enron is dead, the grip of its cold, dead hand on the nation's economy is not. The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) is busily implementing a new scheme of increased regulatory intervention that was long sought by the now defunct company because it would benefit the company's business operations.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: calpowercrisis; energylist; enronlist; govwatch; powertransmission

1 posted on 03/13/2002 9:08:39 AM PST by xsysmgr
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2 posted on 03/13/2002 12:52:58 PM PST by Free the USA
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3 posted on 03/13/2002 1:20:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: xsysmgr;Dog Gone;Ernest at the Beach;snopercod;SierraWasp
If you can't solve the problem in one area, make it big enough that it effects everybody, and maybe nobody will notice!
4 posted on 03/13/2002 1:31:01 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I wish the Washington Times had provided a link to that study, because this raises some interesting questions.

The RTO's were conceived as way of streamlining power deliveries from one market to another across state lines seamlessly, instead of the uncoordinated way it is down now. Whether that will have the unintended consequences that are predicted here, I'm not sure.

This deserves closer inspection.

5 posted on 03/13/2002 1:32:11 PM PST by Dog Gone
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it is down now = it is done now (sheesh )
6 posted on 03/13/2002 1:34:39 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
What does one properly call "predicted unintended consequences"?
7 posted on 03/13/2002 2:04:28 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
"freshly produced electricity"? Personally, I buy mine a the day-old store at half price.

This article was really poorly done. IMO, not up to the WT's usual standards.

8 posted on 03/13/2002 3:01:40 PM PST by snopercod
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To: Carry_Okie
A conspiracy? ;-)
9 posted on 03/13/2002 4:07:16 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
I prefer, 'The usual sell-out to the guy with the FAT campaign check,' otherwise known as, "Yeah, we know that only a free market with accountability will really work, but that isn't the real world."
10 posted on 03/13/2002 4:25:18 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: xsysmgr
this is a really dangerous thing to do. Most do not know how dangerous. As we go into 'regulated' 're-regulation' we make our electric supply as good as our immegration-naturalization service. It will become like Egypt, where a few years ago, a friend of mine took me out to celebrate his good fortune, he got a telephone, after a deposit of $1500 and then only 10 years on the waiting list.
11 posted on 03/13/2002 4:29:27 PM PST by XBob
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An "omenous" development?
12 posted on 03/13/2002 8:40:11 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
An "omenous" development?

No, more like a bunch of half truths. I have mixed feelings about the 4 RTO idea. FERC has been pushing for a market based and deregulated transmission system for over a decade. Some of the stuff in the RTO instructions is just things that were debated long ago in NOPR 888, 888A and 889.

Cost benefit studies have shown that "economic dispatch" of larger power pools will create more power and lower costs to the nation. The author's statement about RTO's not having capital or financial incentives to build more stuff, clearly shows he has never contemplated an FTO (Financial Transmission Obligations), where parties agree to pay transmission constraint prices based on enery zonal price differences. But hey only a real power geek would read that stuff or how ancillary transmission services are to be priced.

The half the power is interstate is just a mis statemetn. Half may be being sold in the wholesale markets, but almost all of all power is regulated by FERC as part of its duty to regulate transmission that is used for interstate commerce.

What kept jumping out at me was how off one wall and then the other wall many of the comments were. Like hey let's not deregulate because it was bad and enron proves it. Then on the otherhand let's not go with a centrally planned transmission system, because that is bad. We can't trust non profits to do things right because they are not motivated by profit. But wait didn't this start and end with profit hungry Enron wanted this so it must be bad?

I think that this is another example of someone writing about something they don't know enough about and just being silly in the process.

13 posted on 03/13/2002 10:24:14 PM PST by Robert357
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I agree with your assessment of the apparently schitzophrenic state of FERC. Anybody who thinks a market won't punish a bad actor isn't watching what is happening to Arthur Andersen right now. AA is a partnership. Don't think for a minute that some very wealthy people aren't taking a bath for deeds for which they may have had no culpability at all. OTOH, what is anybody going to do about Gray Davis' little dalliances? Who holds him personally accountable for the scale of his debacle?
14 posted on 03/13/2002 10:35:32 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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