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Buying and Selling [ White Babies $35,000...Black Babies Only $4,000 ]
ABC News Website ^ | 3-12-02 | Dean Schabner

Posted on 03/12/2002 1:26:04 PM PST by antaresequity

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To: gwynapnudd
Man, the preaching business at the Antioch Church must be pretty lucrative.

This, I can tell you with total certainty: It's not.

141 posted on 03/12/2002 8:48:36 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Thorn11cav
Thorn...please don't go there.
142 posted on 03/12/2002 8:50:25 PM PST by antaresequity
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"Son, let me tell u about your adoption. Frankly your momma and me got ya because you were the cheapest thing on the market. That's how it's done in America son, supply and demand but don't fret none cause you turned out to be a great bargain especially since you signed the NBA contract and bought us a million dollar mansion."
143 posted on 03/12/2002 8:54:28 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: All
Here is a related news article in the Seattle Times.

Here is a link to Antioch Bible Church's adoption ministry website.

I know this man personally.

For those who might be wondering about him, I have to say that I have never met a man with greater integrity than Ken Hutcherson. Antioch Bible Church is a multi-racial congregation, and Pastor Hutch is not the slightest bit afraid of what people think of him and his uncompromising views. (He recently roomed with Rush Limbaugh on a fishing trip, incidentally.) He has been known to hold accountable other black pastors who wish to exclude white people from their church activities; he is very straightfoward regarding issues like homosexuality.

I think he has a problem with the fact that it costs an arm and a leg to adopt a child. Consider this paragraph in the Seattle Times interview, above: "The most discriminated-against couples in America today are white couples trying to adopt white children," he said. White babies are treated as the "Mercedes" of adoptees, or black children are deemed less valuable, and either position is immoral, he said.

Say what you will about him - disagree with his methods if you think you have a better idea - but understand that he's doing this because he loves children and he wants to see them have homes.

This is a good man, people.

144 posted on 03/12/2002 9:18:07 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: antaresequity
alright....don't take it personal...this joke was told to me by my polish friend and his last name is zolczynski.

a man goes to the butcher shop to buy some human brains.
looking into the case he sees:

white brains- 50 cents per lb
japanese brains- 75 cents per lb
latin brains- $1 per lb
african brains- $2 per lb
and polish brains at $25 per lb

astonished, he asks the butcher why the high price for the polish brains.
the butcher replies: 'are you kidding? do you know how many polocks we had to kill to get a pound of brains?'

145 posted on 03/12/2002 9:30:01 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Actually I think there are more white than black babies adopted at any one time. Remember, many black women dont even bother to put their babies up for adoption becauce they are discouraged from doing so by agencies and are fearful their babies will land in state custody, which is, in my opinion, a terrible thing.

Blacks also have an incredibly high abortion rate.

147 posted on 03/13/2002 2:20:17 AM PST by mlmr
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To: Chong; altair; antaresequity; jorge
sarcasm: a taunting, sneering, cutting, or caustic remark, gibe or jeer; generally ironic.
source: Webster's Dictionary

Apparently the only person who got it was the person I originally prefaced the comment to. Calm down and stop taking yourself so seriously.

148 posted on 03/13/2002 7:38:25 AM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: antaresequity
Absolutely right on!
149 posted on 03/13/2002 7:53:52 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: mlmr
"Birthmothers sometimes back out." True, as is their right. But the one I referred to was indeed crazy. That child will have a difficult life.
150 posted on 03/13/2002 7:57:21 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Thorn11cav
You don't have to convince me brother. It sickens me to see so many, see so little in themselves. What a tragic waste.
151 posted on 03/13/2002 8:16:21 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: colorado tanker
True, as is their right. But the one I referred to was indeed crazy. That child will have a difficult life.

Crazy people have babies every day. It is heartbreaking, of course, but that is a choice we have here in the States. The State has to work long and hard to take away a child. Do I think the bar is misapplied at times? You bet.

153 posted on 03/13/2002 2:34:46 PM PST by mlmr
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To: GoreIsLove
It's been a long time since someone successfully trolled me. Nicely done.
154 posted on 03/13/2002 2:42:40 PM PST by altair
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To: mlmr
It's frustrating because as an adoptive parent I have been investigated, fingerprinted and educated ad nauseum to prove I am a qualified parent. Yet an immature, drug using teenager with hormones on overload can become a parent because she wants a baby to love her! A child having a child.

But as a conservative, I would never advocate government licensing of parents or more government intrustion into family life.

155 posted on 03/13/2002 3:18:29 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: antaresequity
We're in the adoption process now. I'm white and the wife is Mexican, so we asked for kids who might look like they could be ours. We started the process 2.5 years ago though our local county. Last May the county placed two boys in our home who are now 18 months and 6 years old. The boys are half brothers and have two older siblings from the same mom, but different dads. Their biological mom took crack up to the very hour the youngest was born. He's now doing great.

The biological mom was 11 when she had her first child. A couple years later she had another. Both were removed from her care. Then a couple years later she had her third child, who was removed from her care, then she had her last child, which was removed at birth. Our two boys are her last two kids. The biological mom is white and the fathers are Mexican and Guatemalen, so their color makes them look like they could be ours.

The adoption process will be over later this year, sometime after the biological moms parental rights are terminated(May 1). We haven't spent a dime for the process through the county. They made us attend parenting and CPR classes, but that was it. Since we're foster parents until the process is over, we get money every month for each boy. We're told the money will continue until the boys are 18 years old (college fund!). They also have medicare until they're 18, so we don't have to worry about insurance for the boys.

It's been a long and sometimes difficult process, but well worth the wait. We don't feel like we're doing anything special - we wanted kids but couldn't have our own, so we adopted.

156 posted on 03/13/2002 3:49:13 PM PST by scripter
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To: colorado tanker
But as a conservative, I would never advocate government licensing of parents or more government intrustion into family life

You are right, life is terrificly unfair. Thank goodness that you are able to see past it and realize that a government solution is not the answer.

157 posted on 03/13/2002 6:12:31 PM PST by mlmr
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To: GoreIsLove
Well, okay. Because there are so many disruptors here who really do say stupid things like that, I missed your sarcasm.

I will get you back one of these days. < /just kidding...?> :-)

158 posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:11 AM PST by Chong
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To: Bella_Bru
They do have one biological child, BTW, but being staunchly pro-life, when it came to having other children, they decided to walk the walk and adopt unwanted children.

I personally agree with this attitude. We have two children of our own, but can't have any more. We would love to adopt children (any color...it wouldn't matter). I think it might be something we will look into in the future, as we have talked about it before. I feel more children would be abopted, if it wasn't so dang expensive. There are a lot of families, like us, who would love to take children into their home. But they (we) live pay check to pay check, stashing away what they can for retirement. Not every couple who has the potential to be a great parent to a child, is wealthy or upper-middle class.

My sister gave her baby to close friends of ours. It was an open aboption and has worked out well. It cost them over $20,000, without going through an agency, etc. I'm assuming the cost was for legal fees.

159 posted on 03/14/2002 5:43:08 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: scripter
We haven't spent a dime for the process through the county.

Are you going through social services? We've been thinking about this too.

160 posted on 03/14/2002 5:54:36 AM PST by SpookBrat
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