Buying and Selling [ White Babies $35,000...Black Babies Only $4,000 ]

ABC News Website ^ | 3-12-02 | Dean Schabner

[antaresequity]

I am not kidding, you have to go to multicultural training,

This is amazing if true...source please?

[another cricket]

Is it paying people to search for a longer period of time?

That is part of it. And home studies. They do expire and the longer you wait the more you will have to have done.

Or is there some legal slight of hand in which one can sell children without running afoul of the law.

Well... The birth mother can ask for and get almost anything she wants within certain limits. Housing, medical care, an allowance, in some cases the a-parents even might arrange to pay for her continued education.

After they (the adoptive parents) have shelled out the money they have no guarantee that she won’t decide any time to change her mind. In some states she has up to a year after the birth to do so. As this was considered a “gift” she does not have to repay them. If this happens a couple times it starts getting very expensive.

A. Cricket

[antaresequity]

Maybe some poor white people will adopt a black instead of a white. When there are mixed families, there is less racism in the surrounding community...

This is a great thought but in reality it doesn't happen...it will shock as to why...read post #115

[Snuffington]

Sheesh. Thanks for the dispiriting info. It does sound like legalized baby selling, but without the standard market protection for the buyer. What a terrible system.

[LWalk18]

I am not kidding, you have to go to multicultural training, This is amazing if true...source please?

I think that such training could be valuable if it is held to hair and skin care of black children, dealing w/ other's (black and white) reactions, etc. Telling white parents that they are somehow incapable of ever fully understanding or raising black children, is wrong, and I have heard some social workers with this attitude.

[antaresequity]

Cricket...I was wondering...maybe it also has to do somehow with the actual pregnancy costs. Perhaps more Black women use "free" government prenatal, postnatal care. Maybe higher socioeconomic factors in and around Whites force them to personally absorb and pass along more costs. And maybe White adopting couples insist on more advanced prenatal cares....

Another factor that may play into it is that the adoption choice and intervention may occur alot earlier with White women....Its a fact that Whites by and large have more "intact" family support structures. Those structures may urge earlier decision making to put the baby up for adoption. I mean if a women has her baby and then goes home and then decides to put it up for adoption, the cost would be alot less I would think.

I am just guessing here. What do you think?

[another cricket]

Oh, that is nothing. I know of a couple who went overseas to adopt, everything was arranged. They had made two trips and then got word that their little boy had died.

"So sorry," they were told, "care to try again?"

They did but they had to start again from square one. The little girl that they did manage to adopt was so sick that they had to hospitalize her as soon as they got off the plane.

Their costs came to well over $100,000 not counting the medical bills. On the other hand they now have the cutest little girl you have ever seen and they love her to pieces so they would say that it was worth it.

In their eyes they would say that it isn't buying so much as rescuing. It costs but so what, having a child born to you isn't free either.

A. Cricket

[HamiltonJay]

No, its not simply a matter of "selling children"... though there is a black market where you can if you are willing to deal with the seediness of it and yes I am talking in the United States.

I am not condoning the practice, but it is more effort to find a newborn white child to adopt than a newborn biracial or black child. Private adoption agencies must spend more time and money to find a mother etc etc. Don't get me wrong they are playing the profit game, I guarantee you their profit margins on a healthy white child are far above that of a healthy black child. The whole industry is a bit seedy IMHO, but it really is the only way you can go.

[HamiltonJay]

Wife has the paperwork, will have to dig it out... believe me its nuts.

[another cricket]

That is part of it. Also, my observation is that black adoptive parents tend to be less desperate then white adoptive parents. They also buy less into the guilt trip that gets put on adoptive parents, that they are benefiting from someone else’s misfortune.

A. Cricket

[antaresequity]

Cricket...your insights and expertise are much appreciative. This has been an enlightening and educational discussion. FreeRepublic is a great resource. Thanks All for the participation in this thread

[Polybius]

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Fifty five percent of your community property, child support and forty percent of your salary in alimony.

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[another cricket]

It been fun antares. Good night all.

A. Cricket

[schu]

Absolutely. We have 2 beautiful adopted daughters from China and the initial decision on where to go was primarliy on the "no visitation" or "can't change my mind" issue. The US process for adoption is a nightmare, most who look at it reject it for the expense, hassle, wait and uncertainty of it all.

The liberalization of the adoption laws, where the parents "rights" supercede the true needs of the child have made lifetime orphans out of many children who not so long ago would have been adopted and happy.

[Calvin Locke]

Very good point. Different cultures, different lifestyles. Maybe there are fewer white babies because extended
"families" take'em before they get to "market".

Insider trading, don't you know?

Vaguely recall an article written by a black woman. She was bemoaning the cost of her life insurance compared to her
comparable white colleague. (D@mned actuarial rates...). Until she went home to visit her mother, in Oakland, and
turning on to the old street - BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! - her car gets hit once or twice in the cross fire.

The economic point being that white babies have a greater chance of lasting longer...
(take-off on very old joke about cost of having a baby - cost a lot, but look how long they last).

[Artist]

Absolutely. We have 2 beautiful adopted daughters from China and the initial decision on where to go was primarliy on the "no visitation" or "can't change my mind" issue. The US process for adoption is a nightmare, most who look at it reject it for the expense, hassle, wait and uncertainty of it all.

I couldn't agree more....I could have written that word for word.

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