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I don't think abortion should be done on rape.

Really? So you think that a tramautized 13 year old should be forced to bear a fetus inside her body which is intimately connected with the most fearfully traumatic and personally invasive brutalization one could imagine? What a refined moral compass.

And when was it legal to murder non-citizens? It's not.

Really? What were we doing in Afganistan when we targeted Muhammad Omar? What were we doing when we sentenced the nazi's?

A child doesn't have a driver's license. Can we kill it with impunity?

Depends--is it still in the womb, without a connected nerve cell to it's name?

Your arguments are logically weak, and not very consistent.

You can show that by showing it. Merely claiming it is rhetorical fluff.

Really? So you think that a tramautized 13 year old should be forced to bear a fetus inside her body which is intimately connected with the most fearfully traumatic and personally invasive brutalization one could imagine? What a refined moral compass.

Oh, what a liberal bleeding heart moment. The value of the life of the unborn is independent on how a girl feels. The girl can get over the tramautization. The fetus won't get over death.

Really? What were we doing in Afganistan when we targeted Muhammad Omar? What were we doing when we sentenced the nazi's?

You do know the difference between the innocent and the guilty, don't you?

Depends--is it still in the womb, without a connected nerve cell to it's name?

Is it human? How about we murder people in comas or vegitables (in the human sense), if brain activity is so important..

You can show that by showing it. Merely claiming it is rhetorical fluff.

You're correct. Your arguments can be applied to certain adults and the logical conclusion can be to murder them. (And yes, I pointed out where above. If you need help finding them again, just ask. If they arn't there, I'll tell you).

-The Hajman-

still in the womb, without a connected nerve cell to it's name?

When would that be?

Brainwaves have been measured at 43 days after conception. Brainwaves cannot exist without a complex network of "connected nerve cells" to produce them. Such a network would've had to begin assembling long before 43 days for it to be operating AT 43 days.

So at what point do you assert that there are no "connected nerve cells"? At conception?