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To: PoorRider
First of all, I cannot believe you are comparing a fetus to a wart. That shows your depth of humanity.

Piffle. You'd inflict an unwanted pregnancy on a 13 year old rape victim. I don't consider you qualified to judge this contest.

Second of all, I'll give you a scientific reason why a fetus and a wart are not one and the same, or worthwhile of your pathetic argument: a wart does NOT have it's own, independent heartbeat when it is severed from a human's body. A fetus does.And that, my friend, is a "logical deduction."

Which demonstrates several things.

1) The disutility of logic, when you are free of the restraints of specifying the formal domain of discourse. Fetus and warts are one and the same under the following domains of discourse: are they biological entities? Do they inhabit woman's bodies? Do they grow? Are they excisable? What is in contention is: the domain of things a woman has a right to deal with free of state coersion. You have demonstrated that they are different under a particular domain of discourse, and implied that they are therefore different under the just-mentioned domain: a case you have not made, but merely assumed, and hoped no one would notice. This is another case of proof without evidence, or any particular reverence for the details of what logic is good for. If you had laid out this as a formal logical demonstration, the able student could have explained to you that you have committed the ancient fallacy called Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, or, as we used to call it, Bait and Switch.

2) At any rate, even if I let all that slide--the fetus has a heartbeat only after it has a heart, which required differentiated cells. At conception, there is one cell. How can one cell have a heartbeat? (Or a brainwave, to respond to an earlier poster on a similar subject.) So is it now your contention that the fetus suddenly has sacred rights only after it's heart begins to beat? Why? Why shouldn't I regard this as just another arbitrary distinction of little meaning? Other, of course, than because of Sacred Knowledge.

179 posted on 03/13/2002 10:59:48 AM PST by donh
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To: donh
You seem to use verbose language as something to suggest that you have a valid point. You do not. To show how you contradict yourself, you cite that at the moment of conception a fetus has one cell, and that this fact somehow supports a wart/fetus similarity.

Well, Mr. Scientist, do you know how long it takes for that onoe cell to divide into two, and so on? Faster than you can reply to this message.

I can't even believe I am trying to get though to you.

185 posted on 03/13/2002 12:21:23 PM PST by PoorRider
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