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NASA Drops Women's Spacesuit Plans
Discovery News ^ | 10 Mar 02 | Irene Brown

Posted on 03/10/2002 8:42:54 PM PST by RightWhale

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20020304/spacesuit.html

NASA Drops Women's Spacesuit Plans

By Irene Brown, Discovery News

March 8 — For five days now, veteran astronaut Nancy Currie has diligently driven around her spacewalking crewmates as they worked on the Hubble Space Telescope while anchored to a platform on the shuttle's robot arm.

She's not complaining, but Currie, who also operated the crane for the first International Space Station construction mission certainly could be forgiven a case of spacewalk envy.

The 5-foot-tall, 110-pound helicopter pilot doesn't even have a chance at an orbital outing because NASA has no suit to fit her. The agency suspended plans to develop a small-sized spacesuit, which would have fit 95 percent of the women — as well as some of the men — who are currently in the astronaut corps.

"The project has been deferred until such time that funds can be made available," said Allen Flynt, head of NASA's Extravehicular Activity Office at the Johnson Space Center in Houston.

NASA's spacesuits are an amalgamation of different-sized coverings for arms, legs, hands, boots and other body parts, all mounted to a hard upper torso base, which currently is available in three sizes - medium, large and extra-large. The suit fits 90 percent of the male astronauts, but just 60 percent of the females, who tend to have narrower chests and shorter arm spans. As the agency prepared for steep increase in the number of spacewalks to build and maintain the station, engineers began designing and testing a small spacesuit torso to accommodate at least seven women in the current astronaut corps who could not fit into a medium-sized suit.

In addition, the small suit might have been a more comfortable and maneuverable fit for more than a dozen other female astronauts who made do with a larger size.

Researchers are somewhat concerned that shelving a suit for women will affect biomedical research planned for the space station, but NASA says height requirements for the Russian Soyuz escape ship make far more women ineligible for long-duration station missions than does the lack of a spacesuit.

The agency is also considering lifting restrictions that all three station crewmembers be certified to conduct spacewalks, meaning that a woman could serve as a station crewmember and a research subject even if she's not spacewalk certified, said NASA spokesman James Hartsfeld.

"Gender is germane to biomedical research," said Jeffrey Sutton, director of a NASA-funded space medicine institute that develops countermeasures for the bone-loss, cardiovascular changes and other undesirable effects of space travel. "In our research, we follow protocols of the NIH (National Institutes of Health) so we try to get a cross-section of the population."

NASA briefly considered flying an all-female shuttle crew for medical research but so far hasn't followed through with the initiative. The agency did host a workshop in 1999 that issued a report calling for NASA to look into developing a spacewalking suit for women.

"A space 'glass-ceiling' should not exist based on size or gender," the panel said.

NASA had already spent between $6 million and $7 million to develop a small suit before deciding to shelve the program, added Flynt.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: onesizefitsall; spacewalk
They used to make custom suits. They even had a suit for a Saint Bernard dog. How can they even dream of sending somebody into space with no spacewalk equipment?

Keyword test.

1 posted on 03/10/2002 8:42:54 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
NASA had already spent between $6 million and $7 million to develop a small suit before deciding to shelve the program, added Flynt.

Wonderful. I wonder how much more it would have taken to finish.

2 posted on 03/10/2002 8:49:49 PM PST by altair
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To: RightWhale
Oh, so it is size that is the problem. I thought it was making a suit that keeps the seat down.
3 posted on 03/10/2002 8:50:00 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: RightWhale
There may be a difference between the spacesuits used while riding the shuttle to orbit, and the suits used for an EVA.
4 posted on 03/10/2002 8:50:02 PM PST by Gladwin
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To: RightWhale
The suit fits 90 percent of the male astronauts, but just 60 percent of the females, who tend to have narrower chests and shorter arm spans.

I'm sure the NAASCW will be filing a law suit in the near future to fight this blatant discrimination.

5 posted on 03/10/2002 8:56:48 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: RightWhale
How many women are cleared for space EVAs anyway? Is it really worth NASA spending 20 million so half a dozen women can also EVA?
6 posted on 03/10/2002 8:56:54 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: Gladwin
They are completely different suits.
7 posted on 03/10/2002 8:58:36 PM PST by FreeperinRATcage
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To: FreeperinRATcage
Yea, The EVA suit is designed to withstand extreme vacuum as well as space radiation and debris. The suits for inside operate under the principle that they have a huge shuttle that protects them from debris and radiation as is.
8 posted on 03/10/2002 9:03:09 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: Bogey78O
The feminazis are pushing to put women in harm's way to fill a quota. Its not like women really need to EVA unless they need the bragging points? I thought women were above such displays of macho. Then again it must be grating on feminazi nerves to discover that even in this age of sexual equality, women still can't do everything that a man can do. For instance, how many women are on the front lines in Afghanistan? Like with space, there appear to be limits to what the public will tolerate the exposure of their daughters' to. No wonder NASA dropped the women's spacesuit plans.
9 posted on 03/10/2002 9:06:59 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: RightWhale

10 posted on 03/10/2002 9:09:02 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
For the greater good @ the least expense.
go girl go
11 posted on 03/10/2002 9:16:27 PM PST by steelie
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To: RightWhale
Hey, as much as those things cost you'd think they could make them in sizes 6, 8, 10 and 12.
12 posted on 03/10/2002 9:19:45 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: RightWhale
"Gender is germane to biomedical research," said Jeffrey Sutton, director of a NASA-funded space medicine institute that develops countermeasures for the bone-loss, cardiovascular changes and other undesirable effects of space travel. "In our research, we follow protocols of the NIH (National Institutes of Health) so we try to get a cross-section of the population."

So it looks like 51% of the US population will lack from medical research
needed for future space flights and space colonization because of lack of funding.

Total US Population (March 2000)
Source: U.S. Census Bureau
274,087,000 100 %
Female
140,154,000 51 %
Male
133,933,000 49 %
13 posted on 03/10/2002 11:20:37 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: RightWhale
--Here's a possible solution. someone with an interest on the civvie side coordinate a donation effort towards the suits. Let the women's orgs put their cash where their mouths are. Seems like getting some millions donated for this effort just wouldn't be that hard, can even see young girls doing it like you see carwash's etc for local efforts in the schools. Space exploration is just "neat", when I was a kid the nation stopped for the launches, it got full time tv coverage, interest was high. It's hard to put a price tag on human endeavors like this, or to really calculate what it's 'worth". Humans are explorers by nature, a lot of times there's no immdiate "payback", but it always seems to come out as a "good deal" in the long run. Lewis and Clark with sacajawea, stuff like that. They know how to build the suits already, just changing the size of some of the components doesn't seem to be that hard contemplating it.
14 posted on 03/11/2002 4:54:06 AM PST by zog
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To: RightWhale
Sometimes, the obvious is simply WAY TOO obvious:

". The suit fits 90 percent of the male astronauts, but just 60 percent of the females, who tend to have narrower chests and shorter arm spans."

OK, fine. The problemo isn't that the suits are too LARGE, it's that our AstroBabes are too SMALL. Why don't they just hire and train LARGER WOMEN for this work? There shouldn't be a shortage - look at all the gals playing college basketball in the NCAA. They are all easily size and conditioning equals of the guys we send up. Bunch of 'em are darned bright, too.

Of course, we could also try the old East German Female Olympic Athlete Plan - they had some real "Arnoldettes."

Michael

15 posted on 03/11/2002 7:27:53 AM PST by Wright is right!
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To: goldstategop
Actually, they really dropped it due to funding.

If the ONLY reason women cannot EVA is because of suit design, then that needs to be addressed. We're not talking physical reqirements to do a job, after all, we're talking the size of the UNIFORM!

If, OTOH, physical fitness and testing requirements have been changed to accomadate women, that is unacceptable. There is a difference between the two issues.

16 posted on 03/12/2002 10:07:25 AM PST by FreeperinRATcage
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