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Bush wants 25,000 UK Iraq force
The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 03/10/2002 | Kamal Ahmed, Jason Burke and Peter Beaumont

Posted on 03/09/2002 4:42:37 PM PST by Pokey78

Britain considers joint invasion plan

America has asked Britain to draw up plans for 25,000 of this country's troops to join a US task force to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

In a move which reveals advanced US plans for the next phase of its war on terror, Government departments are considering the plans ahead of Vice-President Dick Cheney's meeting with the Prime Minister tomorrow.

Cheney will come to London armed with fresh evidence against the Iraqi dictator, and will tell Tony Blair that United Nations inspections of Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons may not be enough to head off a new war in the Gulf.

The request for such a large number of British troops shows the high stakes America is now playing for. It will alarm Cabinet doves, thought to include Clare Short, the International Development Secretary, and Robin Cook, the former Foreign Secretary and now Leader of the Commons.

The Government is already facing a split on the issue of military action against Iraq. One Minister described those who had questioned Blair's policy of fully backing a US military campaign as 'appeasers'.

'At some point people have to realise that action has to be taken,' he said.

The request for such a large number of troops is unprecedented in peacetime. It is one of three major options now being considered by the Government which has always insisted publicly that no final decisions have been made on military action against Saddam.

British troops would be part of a 250,000-strong ground force to invade Iraq in an operation similar to Desert Storm in 1991.

The second option is one where smaller special forces units would support opposition forces within Iraq, like the tactic used in Afghanistan, where the Northern Alliance was backed with air strikes and logistical support in its battle to overthrow the Taliban.

The third option - thought to be preferred by the Foreign Office - is one of 'aggressive containment'. Under this plan, air strikes against Iraq would be intensified if Saddam did not agree to a comprehensive inspections agree ment.

Cheney arrives in London ahead of a 10-day 'hearts and minds' tour of the Middle East which is seen as vital in shoring up the alliance against Iraq. After London he will visit Egypt, Israel, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and Turkey.

America is confident that with enough evidence against Saddam, the White House can persuade other Arab states to support military action.

'I think they all have legitimate concerns about the regime in Iraq, and they're aware that Saddam continues to represent a threat to the security and stability of the region,' said one White House official. 'I expect they'll all want to talk about it.'

America has already begun a discreet military build-up in preparation for a ground war in Iraq. US special forces are training Iraqi militia to be ready for a strike against Saddam in the coming months.

Teams of instructors drawn from American elite regiments have been arriving in Kurdish-held areas in the north of Iraq in recent weeks, targeting the semi-autonomous areas run by the Kurdish Democratic Party.

The instructors are improving local fighters' tactical and weapons skills and teaching them how to exploit chaos caused by American air strikes. They are also drawing up lists of potential targets, a vital prerequisite to any ground offensive.

Defence sources say a battalion of 24 Longbow Apache attack helicopters also recently arrived in Kuwait. The helicopters, capable of operating up to 250 kilometres behind enemy lines, could be used to attack air defence sites and Iraqi armour in the opening air phase of any war.

In a separate development sources say more than 5,000 US fighting vehicles, mothballed in Kuwait since the end of the Gulf War, have quietly been overhauled.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britishfriends; bushdoctrineunfold; geopolitics; warlist
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1 posted on 03/09/2002 4:42:37 PM PST by Pokey78
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2 posted on 03/09/2002 4:45:12 PM PST by carpio
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Saber rattling never phases Saddam Hussein......he has a death wish and hopefully we WILL oblige.
3 posted on 03/09/2002 4:46:14 PM PST by OldFriend
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I sure wish I could have been a fly on the wall during the Bush family father-and-son conversation regarding Iraq.
4 posted on 03/09/2002 4:46:54 PM PST by snopercod
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No, not that, not 25,000 British troops! What's next? The comfy pillow?????????????
5 posted on 03/09/2002 5:04:09 PM PST by Mahone
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The request for such a large number of troops is unprecedented in peacetime.

Peacetime?

6 posted on 03/09/2002 5:08:29 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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How many more soldiers will be needed if Iran joins in the fun? I feel a draft.
7 posted on 03/09/2002 5:11:01 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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The Observer is a leftist paper. Why is it that I can't find a story similar to this at the web site of Britian's best paper, the Telegraph?

I think that opponents of British-American friendship are floating this 25,000 number in order to discredit any cooperation.

8 posted on 03/09/2002 5:16:37 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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" ... he has a death wish ... "

Before too much damage is done to Iraq, his own forces will take him out. Yeah, I know he's murdered hundreds of his own officers, but I expect there are many others laying low.

9 posted on 03/09/2002 5:17:57 PM PST by AngrySpud
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How many more soldiers will be needed if Iran joins in the fun? I feel a draft.

None. If it comes to military action, Iran will howl, then smile at being the dominant non-Western military force in the region.

10 posted on 03/09/2002 5:24:29 PM PST by SJackson
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"I feel a draft."

Nah. they'll call up the reserves like last time, huh?

11 posted on 03/09/2002 5:26:53 PM PST by blam
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The saber will defeat the scimitar.
12 posted on 03/09/2002 5:29:29 PM PST by Consort
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14 posted on 03/09/2002 5:31:27 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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15 posted on 03/09/2002 5:31:27 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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In a separate development sources say more than 5,000 US fighting vehicles, mothballed in Kuwait since the end of the Gulf War, have quietly been overhauled

If I'm correct, some 1200+ of those would be Abrams receiving an upgrade to the M1A3 variant.
16 posted on 03/09/2002 5:43:17 PM PST by BJClinton
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whats wrong with 25,000 British troops?
17 posted on 03/09/2002 5:51:42 PM PST by dennybabyboy-fitzy
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OF posted: Saber rattling never phases Saddam Hussein......he has a death wish and hopefully we WILL oblige.,

Saber rattling never bothers any of these Islamic Terrorist who run their countries. They send others to die for them. Most of them will die of old age from heart disease and other diseases.

Saddam has more doubles for him than Elvis does in Vegas. He just bought 5,000 new luxury cars for his top underlyings. Of course they are all the same color and body style that he rides in. Now he is just one of 5001!

All of these super Rich Arabs have no death wish for themselves! Saddam has no problem with 500,000 of his guys meeting the virgins as long as he is not with them.

18 posted on 03/09/2002 5:53:46 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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19 posted on 03/09/2002 5:58:21 PM PST by Free the USA
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Before too much damage is done to Iraq, his own forces will take him out. Yeah, I know he's murdered hundreds of his own officers, but I expect there are many others laying low.

I think that is what is partially behind all the talk about Iraq from the administration.
Iraqian population been through this once. I don't think they want it again
20 posted on 03/09/2002 5:59:00 PM PST by uncbob
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