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Huge Gains For Dutch Far Right
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 3-8-2002 | Andrew Osborne

Posted on 03/07/2002 6:08:19 PM PST by blam

Huge gains for Dutch far right

Andrew Osborn
Friday March 8, 2002
The Guardian

The Dutch government was under pressure last night after a new far-right movement committed to slashing immigration made widespread gains in local elections and became the biggest political force in Rotterdam, the Netherlands' second city.
The spectacular gains by the charismatic but openly racist politician Pim Fortuyn and a loose coalition of parties centred on the anti-immigration Leefbaar Nederland (Liveable Netherlands) movement come two months before national elections and threaten to shatter the country's image as an ultra-tolerant society.

Mr Fortuyn favours zero Muslim immigration, wants to cut the annual number of immigrants accepted to 10,000 from 40,000, and has campaigned for a key anti- discrimination clause to be removed from the constitution.

In Rotterdam, where almost half of the 600,000 population are of non-Dutch extraction, Mr Fortuyn captured 17 of the city council's 45 seats, putting an end to the ruling Labour party's post-war dominance. With 34.7% of the votes, Leefbaar Nederland is now the city's largest party.

Bram Peper, the ousted mayor of Rotterdam, said: "I don't know what's going on, but something is terribly wrong in Rotterdam." (Idiot!)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fortuyn; geopolitics; netherlands
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To: blam
...Mr Fortuyn favours zero Muslim immigration...

I said it before and I'll say it again:

Favoring zero muslim immigration, whether in the Netherlands, Yugoslavia, Denmark, Australia, or the United States is not necessarily "right wing" or "racist".

It just means WANTING TO LIVE as FREE people, and not wanting to leave the children you love a world ruled by muslims!!!! Because total world conquest is what islam has ALWAYS been about!!!

21 posted on 03/07/2002 7:19:05 PM PST by Honorary Serb
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To: Jumper
"Yep, I'm beginning to beleive that humans cycle in generational pulls, and every 3-4 generations there are swings in the political arena in which it goes back and forth between conservative and liberal - looks as if the Dutch have had 'nuff of the the Elite European Liberalizm for now."

Congratulations to your friends. There is hope.

22 posted on 03/07/2002 7:24:02 PM PST by blam
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To: Honorary Serb
Hey people,
This guy Fortuyn can't be all that bad, if Knighthawk is voting for him.
Please read his thread Dutch Right poised....
23 posted on 03/07/2002 7:30:07 PM PST by fortress
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To: blam
Mr Fortuyn favours zero Muslim immigration, wants to cut the annual number of immigrants accepted to 10,000 from 40,000, and has campaigned for a key anti- discrimination clause to be removed from the constitution

10,000? Why so many?

24 posted on 03/07/2002 7:32:42 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: blam
Interesting.
25 posted on 03/07/2002 7:36:32 PM PST by iav2
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To: blam
bttt!
26 posted on 03/07/2002 7:36:57 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Age of Reason
"10,000? Why so many?"

I agree, one more is to many.

27 posted on 03/07/2002 7:45:42 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; jackbill
Bram Peper, the ousted mayor of Rotterdam, said: "I don't know what's going on, but something is terribly wrong in Rotterdam

Peper should know, he was caught when he did large scale fraud. He took family with him to Indonesia and let the city Rotterdam pay for it (cost: about 10.000 Euro a ticket). Also he did fraud with 'businessdinners': he let the city pay for private dinners. But, in typical PvdA fashion, he was left off the hook, creating great controversy.

Also there was a list in the national media, which showed the top 'refunders' (the councilmembers that spend the most money on dinners and trips). Strangely all the top spots were held by PvdA members. But hey, it's just public money and they are socialists, so they public won't mind, they thought! Now they get the bill for screwing around.

28 posted on 03/08/2002 5:55:09 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: Jumper
Hallo, ook de groeten uit Nederland.

I also live in Limburg (in Helden, a toen between Venlo and Roermond).

I confirm the way we Dutch people are fed up with liberalism and the socialists. And about the Dutch people getting excited about him.

My father voted all his life for the PvdA, even my mother could not convince him of the CDA. But he became tired of the way the government treats people. He will vote for Fortuyn too! So will almost all people I know too!

29 posted on 03/08/2002 6:00:59 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
"Also there was a list in the national media, which showed the top 'refunders' (the councilmembers that spend the most money on dinners and trips). Strangely all the top spots were held by PvdA members. But hey, it's just public money and they are socialists, so they public won't mind, they thought! Now they get the bill for screwing around.

Just like socialist everywhere.

30 posted on 03/08/2002 6:02:57 AM PST by blam
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To: quebecois; knarf; blam; all
Rotterdam is half non-Dutch

42% is non-Dutch in Rotterdam, and with crime figures like this: "the police in Rotterdam accounced that of the street robberies there, 1% were committed by Dutch nationals and 99% by immigrants (45% were Antillians, 38% Moroccan, 16% Turkish/Eastern European)" (source: the Telegraaf and nu.nl) it is not hard to believe 47,5% of the people in Rotterdam feel unsafe on the streets.

31 posted on 03/08/2002 6:06:52 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: Dialup Llama; Big Bunyip
From what I've read about Fortyn, no smear campaign against him would have an effect

That is correct. Fortuyn is very good at debating and knows his facts very well (he wrote 50 books and was a professor sociology). After the elections there was a debate about the upcoming national elections where Fortuyn and the other leaders of all parties were present. Melkert (from the PvdA, socialists) was angry and sad about his party's incredible loss and was taking it out on Fortuyn. Fortuyn kept his head and he really won the debate. The next day the newspapers wrote that Melkert really looked bad, so bad that now Wim Kok, the PvdA prime-minister will do the campeign from now on.

32 posted on 03/08/2002 6:12:12 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: blam
The spectacular gains by the charismatic

read: gay = good

but openly racist politician

read: for restricting immigration = bad

Pim Fortuyn...

Just trying to help ya'll read between the lines...

33 posted on 03/08/2002 6:15:27 AM PST by skeeter
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To: blam
By the way, the bus (soundvehicle) from Livable Rotterdam was stolen by a member of the SP (a far left party, as in turing all the money from the working people over to the unemployed) as a 'gag' (in the eyes of extreme left, crime committed by them and their voters does not count). They also staged the 'demonstration' of the homeless people in front of Pim's house.
34 posted on 03/08/2002 6:22:43 AM PST by knighthawk
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