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U.S. Soldiers Killed In Afghanistan..BREAKING
MSNBC | 03-02-02 | my favorite headache

Posted on 03/02/2002 9:24:40 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

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To: PatrioticAmerican
Which is why we are not wanting to be there in force. We don't WANT to hold it. We don't really care what they do as long as they are fairly stable and don't harbor terrorists.

Let the British and others mess around with staying there.

101 posted on 03/02/2002 10:49:12 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Dog
Where is Tony Cavanaugh...
102 posted on 03/02/2002 10:50:21 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Dog
Send in the AC-130......

Get PUFF in there now!

An excellent idea, but there's one problem:

Little Teeniensy Puff Dasshole can't see over the dashboard of the AC-130.

Even when he draws himself up to his full 4 feet 6 inches.

103 posted on 03/02/2002 10:50:43 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: MARTIAL MONK
That's the only thing that makes sense....the other numbers are just too staggering.
104 posted on 03/02/2002 10:51:22 AM PST by Dallas
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To: Salvation
I say it is time to use tactical nukes. After all the firepower we've thrown into this they are still regrouping. We need to disintegrate them. NOW. To hell with world opinion. What the hell is world opinion going to matter when we've lost our country. It's them or us.
105 posted on 03/02/2002 10:51:40 AM PST by Two Thirds Vote Aye
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To: american spirit
It's a known fact that binLaden was a US gov't. creation to help fight the Russians . . . .

How could half the cab drivers in NYC know not to be in the vicinity of the WTC yet the FBI/CIA supposedly knew nothing.

Could you please provide sources for these 'facts.' BTW, a link to ArabNews, Pravda or the People's Daily doesn't count. The source has to be from a place that has a free press.

106 posted on 03/02/2002 10:54:20 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: gwynapnudd
Think our puppet government will last that long?

First of all, any "puppet government" was put in place for a period of 6 months ONLY. Long enough for the Afghanis to arrange for a loya jerga to elect their own government. At that time, it's the peoples government, not ours, not the UN's, not anybody but the people who have chosen their own leaders.

Do we think Daisy Cutters alone will do it? No. We fully expect the people to finally get back up on their own feet and at that time THEY will do it.

There is no doubt that the Russian fighters were very capable warriors, but they were fighting for conquest and not for liberation. It makes a difference.

107 posted on 03/02/2002 10:56:54 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Miss Marple
"Which is why we are not wanting to be there in force."

I want to see us in there with as much force is needed.
If they have sticks, we needs trees.
We need to overwhelm them in no uncertain terms and now, not later.
It worked in the Gulf War (overwhelm) and should be done again.
Then everyone else can come in and play peacekeeper.
108 posted on 03/02/2002 10:58:04 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Dallas

U.S., Afghan Troops Killed and Wounded in Attack

March 02, 2002 02:34 PM ET
By Charles Aldinger

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - At least one U.S. service member and two Afghan troops were killed and others wounded on Saturday in a major attack on al Qaeda and Taliban forces south of Gardez in eastern Afghanistan, the U.S. military said.

The casualties occurred as hundreds of Afghan troops backed by U.S. and other coalition ground forces and heavy American bombing moved against regrouping al Qaeda guerrillas of fugitive Osama bin Laden and Taliban fighters in Paktia Province.

In the provincial capital of Gardez, troops back from the front said the outnumbered Afghan forces had been beaten back in an attack on several thousand al Qaeda and Taliban.

"U.S., coalition and Afghan forces have sustained casualties," the U.S. Central Command said in a release from its headquarters in Tampa, Florida.

"Initial reports are that one U.S. service member and two Afghan forces have been killed. an unspecified number of U.S. and Afghan forces have been injured," said the command, which is responsible for the American war in Afghanistan sparked by the Sept. 11 attacks on America.

The fierce fighting, which started on Friday night and continued into Saturday night, was shaping up as one of the biggest battles between the two sides since Taliban and al Qaeda forces were routed by U.S.-led attacks in December.

LONG, FIERCE BATTLE

The Central Command release said Afghan and coalition forces began fighting al Qaeda guerrillas and Taliban forces south of Gardez at about 9 p.m. EST Friday, which was early Saturday in Afghanistan.

A number of other countries, including Britain, France, Australia and Canada, also have coalition forces involved in fighting the al Qaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan.

"This mission involved Afghan and coalition service members, but the main effort is the Afghan forces led by General Zia, General Kamal Khan Zadran and General Zakim Khan," the Central Command said.

Senior Pentagon officials told Reuters in Washington on Friday that the United States had been collecting intelligence on regrouping al Qaeda and Taliban in the area for some time, but that it would be up to Army Gen. Tommy Franks, head of the Central Command, to order any attack.

Near Gardez, Afghan soldiers said they feared some of their units might have been cut off or surrounded in the battle about 20 miles east of Gardez near the Pakistan border.

"Some people think there are 3,000 fighters against us. Some think 5,000," one soldier said.

Bombing continued at nightfall on Saturday and a Reuters television cameraman saw flashes and loud explosions from B-52 bombing strikes. At least two big U.S. Chinook military helicopters headed out of the battle area in the mountain village of Shahi Ko in Arma district.


109 posted on 03/02/2002 10:59:57 AM PST by michigander
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To: My Favorite Headache
For all who can remember, it's time we dusted off this leaflet and started dropping it in Afghanastan. Ace Of Spades
110 posted on 03/02/2002 11:02:37 AM PST by Johnny_Apollo
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To: My Favorite Headache; all
Any casualty whatsoever is bad, but in a large scale combat scenario, 2% dead casualty count is considered excellent.

Out of 60 American soldiers, 1 death is not a defeat or a bad showing. Especially considering the odds.( 4,000 versus 660 w/Air power).

Another thing to consider, any news released from Afganistan by American Press has been sterilized for public consumption. You can bet that there have many small, precision, ops that the only the 2 or 3 men involved know about. These are the ones where our guys can "freelance" a little with no red cross or UN observers to placate. And our guys who do these kind of ops are the best in the world.( With all due respect to mossad, sas).

As for the Al queda troops fighting off the attacking force of 600 Afgan and 60 Americans, this is probably the first time the enemy has actually stood en masse and fought. This whole campaign has had Al queda bailing like rookie day traders on a bad day. The fact that they actually fought back probably threw off the timing of the attack. Don't expect a repeat.

God bless the soldiers who have had the great honor of dying for the noble cause of liberty.

God be with the families as they go through the tribulation of loosing a precious loved one. Let them heal with the thought that their loved one did not die in vain.

111 posted on 03/02/2002 11:03:44 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: american spirit
I was gonna address your post one lump of dog shit at a time, but by the start of the 2nd paragraph the pile got too big to take you even the least bit seriously. You finished up with pure rantings of a certified lunatic. I hope you come under the care of a licensed professionals before you finally break and kill us all.
112 posted on 03/02/2002 11:06:11 AM PST by Gumption
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To: viligantcitizen
Every ought to get a grip Sittin by your computer analyzing a battle going on 1000s of miles away based on some preliminary reports to the networks

Chill out
113 posted on 03/02/2002 11:07:31 AM PST by uncbob
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To: viligantcitizen
One good thing about all this--the enemy are concentrated in one area and, likely, cut off from escape. So we have the opportunity to clean the slate. Daisy cutter time . . .
114 posted on 03/02/2002 11:07:34 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: My Favorite Headache
Latest Headline from Aj-Jazeera Online..

New Battles in Eastern Afghanistan, a New Attack in Kandahar

Afghan forces and US missiles attacked positions in which fighters of Al Qaeda and Taliban are believed to be hiding. These clashes led to the killing of two of the Afghan forces. On the other hand, about 200 of the Afghan local leaders are expected to arrive in Kabul to discuss the Afghan army formation.


Source: http://www.aljazeera.net/

It seems interesting that this Arab language newspaper has pictured a female soldier as "representing" the United States...I wonder how our use of females in the military plays in the Arab world?  Is it a sign of weakness or decadent American culture?

 

 

115 posted on 03/02/2002 11:10:05 AM PST by jonathanmo
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Not only that,but Admiral William"Bull"Halsey swore that he would ride through the steets of Tokyo on Hirohito's horse!!God Bless our Men and Women in The Armed Forces of The United States of America!!
117 posted on 03/02/2002 11:13:12 AM PST by bandleader
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To: jonathanmo
I picked up on Afghan Forces and US Missles...ummm weren't there US Forces there as well? Or are they known as missles?
118 posted on 03/02/2002 11:13:47 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: JimSEA
>>>If there is any accuracy here, it would be my hope that the Taliban / Al Qaeda will soon learn not to mass troops agaist a fore with dominate air power. <<<

Why would you hope that Jim?? Don't you want it to be easy for US troops to eliminate these lo-lifes. When they are in a bunch - fewer Daisy Cutters are required - thus saving tax dollars.

Who you rooting for??

119 posted on 03/02/2002 11:13:48 AM PST by HardStarboard
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To: My Favorite Headache
That wasn't noted in the translation I used...
120 posted on 03/02/2002 11:16:12 AM PST by jonathanmo
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