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To: Eagle Eye; harpseal
"TTFTH"

I hope it's not time yet. We still can win at the ballot box if we work at it. When clinton started his first term, the people started voting out the dems in record numbers. When the OK bombing took place that was the end of it. The voters started to look for an evil right wing conspiracy.

We have to get rid of the dem party and all of them. A conservative dem still aids his party so we have to vote all of them from office. We also have to get the RINO's out of office. A good example of that is making sure that California gets a good conservative for governor and not that anti-gun creep.

11 posted on 02/25/2002 7:12:02 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
The criminal penaties attached to the CFR bill may take away the ballot box as an option.

Stay well - stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

12 posted on 02/25/2002 7:27:55 PM PST by harpseal
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To: Shooter 2.5
We still can win at the ballot box if we work at it.

Perhaps. In 1980 and 1994, the American people had the truth presented to them and responded favorably. The question is: "can it happen again?".

The traitors have been hard at work (through the educational system and immigration policy) to ensure that the socialists will prevail in the future. Even the Republicans aren't really opposing them on these two fronts.

The "domestic enemies of the Constitution" are hoping that the next time that "we the people" wake up (like in 1980 or 1994) that we are simply outvoted by the recent immigrants and indoctrinated public school graduates.

Also, in order to win at the ballot box, we need to have a candidate who is willing to speak the truth (like Reagan in 1980 or Gingrich in 1994, but to a MUCH larger extent). Bush has failed in this regard. He is not addressing the assault on our Freedoms, nor is he trying to restore our Freedoms and return the government to its Constitutional limits. He is (at best) simply holding the line against the assault. He'll be on the ballot in 2004, which means that 2008 is the earliest that we'll have a chance of nominating a candidate who will work to preserve our Freedom. I don't know if the Bill of Rights will hold up for that long given the current rate of attack on it.

Another point to consider is where will these candidates come from? Very few Republicans (Ron Paul is one, for example) are addressing the issues that need to be dealt with. None of the GOP "leaders" are, which means that it will take an outsider, like Reagan, to fix the system.

This works good in theory, but both parties have now rigged the system (by having early primaries) such that victory by an "outsider" is very difficult. The CFR bill will make it nearly impossible.

My only desire (with regards to the "ballot box") is to have an election where the lines are clearly drawn. The totalitarians on one side, the defenders of Freedom on the other. Slavery vs Freedom. Security vs Liberty. Evil vs Good. If we win, that would settle things for the next 50 years. If we lose, that would indicate quite clearly what actions we would need to take to achieve our Freedom. Either way, we would prevail.

The "powers that be" do not want to see such an election to occur since they would lose, regardless of the outcome. So they continue to chip away at our Freedoms, while we keep hoping to resolve things at the ballot box.

15 posted on 02/25/2002 8:54:44 PM PST by Mulder
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To: Shooter 2.5
There is no respect for the Constitution and the Republic by those elected to uphold it. Those seeking office (E. Dole, etc) have not shown themselves any better.

It is amazing how quickly a group of unruly children will settle down and behave if one or two of them are spanked for their misbehavior.

18 posted on 02/26/2002 4:22:33 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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