Goodwin admits more material lifted

Boston Globe ^ | 2/24/2002 | David Abel

[Cuttnhorse]

Doris Kearns Goodwin, the prolific historian who recently acknowledged appropriating a few passages from another author's work for a book she wrote in 1987, told her publisher last week that the same book contained scores of quotations and paraphrases taken without attribution from other writers.

[RnMomof7]

Since the report on the settlement in January, Goodwin told her publisher that her research assistants found passages copied from several other books.

Do ya "spose " this means she didn't write the book? :>)

[bird humming]

I do think Imus will call her on it. He was not completely convinced by her explanation of writing everything on a legal pad, getting footnotes mixed up cos there were SO MANY to keep straight. yada. Iman wondered out loud last week if Doris had been straight w/him...

Ambrose got raked over the coals for his plagiarism. She should likewise be raked, but won't be... 'so many footnotes, all over my office floor. sob, sob. I can't understand it! I should have been more aware of what MY ASSISTANTS were doing!'

[b4its2late]

Hope you're right.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

We're getting to the final rinse phase of the typical liberal spin cycle, as perfected by William Jefferson Clinton and his many sycophants. It goes something like this:

1. I didn't do it.
2. I did a little of it.
3. I did a teensy bit more of it.
4. I did a lot of it.
5. I did all of it, but it doesn't matter.

[Ann Archy]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA...Johnson's service provider finally got caught.

[flying Elvis]

One of the news networks ran a blurb by Stephen Ambrose last night claiming that his current book is his last on the war and he will begin writing about the enviroment.

[Ann Archy]

I swear I did not read your comment before posting mine...:)

[csvset]

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

Geez, at least JFK had good taste. Even Clinton did better. Goodwin makes Monica Lewinsky look like Sophia Loren.

[Political Junkie Too]

And what about Jeff Jacoby? What did he get in trouble for, anyway? It wasn't plagiarism, I don't think.

He was silenced before the election.

His supposed plagiarism was in writing a column based on an "internet legend" article on the fates of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

It was just an excuse by the Boston Globe to shut his conservative voice out of the 2000 election.

-PJ

[Cuttnhorse]

Geez, thanks for the photo csv...and I was just heading down the hill to chow...lost my appetite for some reason.

[Patriotic Bostonian]

You Kennedy suckups make me sick to my very soul! The Kennedy's are a vile family and have brought nothing but socialism to Massachusetts. Joe Kennedy was a crook and Nazi sympathizer!

[gridlock]

I guess plagiarism is not a big deal among the Left...

Well, when you have only one idea, it's hard not to repeat yourself from time to time!

[pt17]

A staunch isolationist, Kennedy argued for the appeasement of Hitler and wanted the United States to stay out of any conflict that might occur between Britain and Germany. Needless to say, this line was not a big hit with the English people or with conservative leaders such as future Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Kennedy resigned under pressure in 1940, when war became inevitable. - Kelly Wittmann

oe Kennedy shared in the Boston Irish resentment of the Yankee elite; it pushed him forward -- from bank president at 25 to Wall Street tycoon to ambassador to the Court of Saint James (Great Britain). But his political career came to an end after an interview in which he recommended appeasement with Nazi Germany. He then focused all his attentions and ambitions on his sons - Irish In America Series - Segment 2

Lobbied for appointment as Ambassador to Britain, awed by Nazi strength he lobbied for appeasement, minimized early Nazi atrocities and supported Hitler. Rose and three of their children were on the first armed merchant ship to arrive in New York, Kennedy battled Churchill and found himself out of the loop, appropriated cargo space for 200,000 cases of whiskey for his import firm, resigned in October amid public ridicule on both sides of the Atlantic - Twisted History

But after Joe Kennedy's carefully manipulated appointment as United States Ambassador to Britain in January 1938, the young hedonist also acted, when well enough, as occasional and avid assistant in his father's seamy double game of appeasing Hitler in Europe while grandiosely and quixotically plotting to replace Roosevelt as President of the United States. - Review of JFK Reckless Youth by Roger Morris

Kennedy's ambassadorship coincided with the beginning of World War II in Europe; and throughout his three year tenure, Kennedy argued against American and British involvement in the war. Even as the Nazis rolled into France, Joe expressed his support for Hitler and maintained a position of appeasement toward Germany. - Excerpt from Sins Of The Father by Ronald Kessler

[BigTime]

Bang on. And properly referenced to boot! How appropriate given the thread.

[BigTime]

Don't tar "revisionism." Those crying the loudest about it are often those attempting to preserve respectable, old falsifications of history... like Goodwin and her ilk.

I don't claim to be a historian, but I don't think your statement is accurate here. In the common usage, "revisionism" presently connotes an attempt to twist history to fit the current day's cultural outlook. If there is a use of the term in historical methodology that differs from this common usage, please expound upon its origin.

And good luck with that Joe Kennedy apologist thing you've got going there.

[pt17]

Bang on. And properly referenced to boot! How appropriate given the thread.

Some people think of the Kennedys as Camelot. A fair amount of these references suggest they were a sorry lot.