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To: gortklattu
Well, we do have something in common. I've met Dr. Dobson, too, chatted with him, and toured his facilities. If you have a problem with his facilities, then what about having other "religious" facilities in Colorado Springs, i.e. Christian and Missionary Alliance, Compassion International, etc. that have moved to COS over the years. Are they a bunch of money grubbers, too?

You've accused Dr. Dobson of being a money grubber, caring only about money, a copier of Mormons, deceitful, and somewhat like a professional sex person. And you say all of this with a sense of knowing authority.

Care to source your so-called facts?

If all of this were true, better men than you would have exposed Mr. Dobson long ago. I've followed his career for 25 years, and I support Focus on the Family. I don't see anything to support your accusations.

As for why Glen Eyrie is "run by religious fundamentalists", all I know is that it is run and owned by "The Navigators" a Christian organization that specializes in discipleship programs that have been used by churches for decades and that is used as a retreat center.

As for my view of Dr. Dobson's facilities, your reply that my view was weak was unsupported by any facts.

63 posted on 02/25/2002 6:46:45 PM PST by exit82
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To: exit82
Ah, the emotional entanglements of religious persuasion, we're seeing a lot of that in today's world.

Religion doesn't need money. Period. Religion doesn't need truth for its foundations, it just needs beliefs and faith. If there were full truth in religion, there would only be one religion.

Today's businesses that run as religious clubs are systems that pretend truth and build beyond what is necessary for the stated mission. They build for the unstated mission: to seduce followers and give them a physical foundation of fellowship, which I prefer to call followship.

Take Compa$$ion International. Funds are donated to it to feed children, and every dollar counts. But, instead of making sure that every dollar possible goes to feeding children, let's build a beautiful building on expensive property with some of those funds. We'll ignore a few thousand hungry kids so we may surround ourselves in these lavish confines and beautiful location. All the while we ignore the possibilities that our feeding kids in poor countries is causing more and more problems. The term is "Blowback."

So, for the point: Are Focus on the Family's buildings more than are necessary? For the followers "No." For the objective outsider "Those were made with tax free donations for an organization that's politically active?" in other words: Yes.

I like Dobson's views and am very religious. I just saw through the acting jobs that most religious persons employ to seduce the masses. I worked, let's say, a little too close to the profession and saw it for what it is.

I really wished you hadn't said I said that all Dobson cared about was money. In dealing within discussions please be accurate.

64 posted on 02/26/2002 8:30:17 AM PST by gortklattu
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