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The Cold Snap That Civilised The World
The Telegraph (UK) ^
| 2-22-2002
| David Derbyshire
Posted on 02/23/2002 2:33:42 PM PST by blam
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To: capitan_refugio
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posted on
02/23/2002 3:49:12 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
Cold snap triggers temple building-- that's what's happening in Utah right NOW. Following the Olympics, many new recruits-- despite protests from world community foreboding unwanted proslyting. People came to Utah seeking fun and games, and get answers to questions, as well. Heading home to enlist. Big Boom in temple building to follow.
To: blam
noah's flood covered the entire earth.....god's word says so.....
23
posted on
02/23/2002 3:54:01 PM PST
by
is_is
To: Little Bill
"Spot me 900 plus years, give or take, say 300, probably right on the money, for the first event, step forward 500 years or so for the rest of the events,at regular intervales through say 1200 BC?" Okay. I have catastropic (worldwide) tree ring events at 2354BC (start bronze age), 1628BC (The Exodus), and 1159BC (David Plague),and 207BC (minor event). Will any of these work?
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posted on
02/23/2002 3:58:02 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
The Mediterranean refilled several million years ago. It was the Black Lake that was flooded with salt water and probably became the source of the "Great Flood" stories. The Sahara dried out about 5,000 years ago also.
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posted on
02/23/2002 4:26:29 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: RightWhale
Temple building is triggered by the fear of god(s). Any changes in the heavens would have been seen as actions of the gods. If those changes were followed by a cataclysmic event on earth such as an asteroid impact, it would certainly be considered as punishment. New temples and sacrifices would be required to appease the angry god(s), and prevent additional punishment. When you consider the fact that the Aztecs practiced human sacrifice until the soldiers of Imperial Spain invaded, the cultural "fear" must have been very deep seated indeed.
"Venus had a psychological effect upon the Maya and other Mesoamerican cultures, it has been shown that the Maya were timing some of their wars based on the stationary points of Venus and Jupiter. Humans were sacrificed on first appearance after Superior Conjunction when Venus was at its dimmest magnitude but they most feared the first Heliacal Rising after Inferior Conjunction." Quoted from This site
To: blam
#2. The same for the Gulf Of Mexico? My Brother and I have been discussing that possibility recently. Do you have any reference data or links?
To: blam
You're missing the East African event of around 3500BC +/-. Remember the Arabian coast on the Persian Gulf was an extention of the Summerian culture until about 2000 +/-BC.
To: blam
That's a great map.
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posted on
02/23/2002 4:49:11 PM PST
by
maro
To: muawiyah
"The Mediterranean refilled several million years ago. " I know, 5 million years to be exact. I'm arguing for a 'reduced water level' in the Mediterranean. Click on the link in post #21. See that the Meditteranean is 'sectioned' across Italy/Sicily/Africa with just a 360 foot water drop.
Some think the worlds oceans dropped by 500 ft.
After the last Ice Age, the water crashed through Gilbralter 'dam' then the Italy/Sicily/Africa 'dam' and then the 'dam' at the Bosphorus flooding the Black Sea. Also, notice on the map, no Persian Gulf and a landlocked Red Sea. (Note similar possibilities in the Gulf Of Mexico). This 'refilling' would sure make for a lot of 'flood' stories, huh?
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posted on
02/23/2002 4:56:35 PM PST
by
blam
To: Little Bill
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posted on
02/23/2002 5:02:35 PM PST
by
blam
To: FreeLibertarian
"My Brother and I have been discussing that possibility recently. Do you have any reference data or links?" There are some PhD friends of my son (Dr. blam) in SOCAL who are looking into the possibility but, other than a flurry of emails, I've not seen anything published on the subject.
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posted on
02/23/2002 5:12:47 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
A dramatically smaller human population circa 3000 BC, and rising ocean waters, certainly would combine to make folks believe there was a worldwide flood going on - particularly where basins such as the Black Sea were flooded all at once.
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posted on
02/23/2002 5:19:33 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
The population count was probably much higher than current estimates. If the count was as estimated, we would have died out.
To: blam
1200 years to late, or the time frame is wrong.
To: Little Bill
"1200 years to late, or the time frame is wrong." So, you're looking for an event centered around +- 3500BC? I'll keep my eyes open.
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posted on
02/23/2002 5:37:53 PM PST
by
blam
To: Little Bill
At 1,000 BC the global population estimate is ~50 Million. Don't know what that number would back down to in 3,000 BC, assuming everything else was equal, which it never is...
To: blam
I'm also lookng for one around 6000 BC, many hints, East Asia, north central, Andes, Northen America, Canada.
To: LostTribe
The estimate is to small by at least a factor of ten.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach;JudyB1938;farmfriend;history matters
Bump for 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'
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posted on
02/23/2002 5:58:38 PM PST
by
blam
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