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Land-sale tax-credit plan hit
WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 2/22/02 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 02/23/2002 7:07:45 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:51:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush's budget includes a conservation tax credit that gives a 50 percent capital-gains-tax break on land sold to the government or land-trust groups.

The budget describes the incentive as a "cost effective, non-regulatory, market-based approach to conservation."

But private-property activists, who typically support the Bush administration, say the tax incentive benefits environmental groups over the private sector and ultimately puts more property and wealth into government hands.


(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: enviralists; fundingtheleft; govwatch; grangelist
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How much government land is too much?
1 posted on 02/23/2002 7:07:45 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
President Bush's budget includes a conservation tax credit that gives a 50 percent capital-gains-tax break on land sold to the government or land-trust groups.

Bush should support a capital gains tax cut for ALL Americans, not just those that surrender their land to marxist enviromentalists or an expansive federal government.

2 posted on 02/23/2002 7:12:22 AM PST by Mulder
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
government should not own land its not using for governmental purposes
3 posted on 02/23/2002 7:13:29 AM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL;Mulder
Why isn't it our land? I think government should be selling it back to us.
4 posted on 02/23/2002 7:16:19 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Mulder
Bush should support a capital gains tax cut for ALL Americans.
5 posted on 02/23/2002 7:19:35 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I woke up this morning, got my coffee, sat down at my computer and ready this post. WHAT THE HECK HAS HAPPENED TO OUR WORLD! I am flabbergasted at how deeply the communists have penetrated our government to come up with such a scheme, and at how absolutely detached from reality the American public is to allow it!

The communist ideology of government control of EVERYTHING grows stronger each day in this country. How can it be stopped?
6 posted on 02/23/2002 7:21:50 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: lewislynn
This is ABSOLUTELY BULLSH*T.... If the President is actually in favor of the government aquiring more land, I'm going to run for legislature in my state, propose a requirement that in order for the title of private land to be transferred to the federal government, the federal government MUST put up for sale 1 and one half times the acreage of the proposed private land purchase of like-kind acreage within the state.

Further, no private land may be sold to the federal government unless the restrictions/use comply with state guidelines- in other words, the federal government may purchase the land, but the resoources of that land purchased will fall under the jurisdiction of the state and not the federal government.

The federal government should be reduced to a silent partner, facilitating the purchase if need be, but having no role in managing the land.

If the federal government wants to buy land, they have to put up for sale 1 and one half the amount of like kind acreage they already own at the market rate they purchase the land in order for the county to allow the title transfer to be recorded.

Further, each county board or commissioners or managers will have the right to reject the transfer of title to the federal government from private hands based on local zoning and resource use determinations made at the rural/local level.

In short, the federal government will have to negotiate with the local people/government, to ensure that land use is not cut-off, restricted from recreation or natural resource use, etc.

The policy of states in the west SHOULD CLEARLY be to begin a long term process of getting the federal government out of the land ownership and management business save for limited areas like national parks or small monument acreage.

The state has the right NOT to allow private citizens to transfer title to the federal government without state approval- that is the Constitutional basis for the legislation.

I'll run, I'll work tirelessly to have this enacted, and in my state, I trust we will likely succeed.

It's a shame I have to work to fight against this President to protect American lands from becoming UN lands or whatever other nonesense the federal government appears to have in mind.

I will actively oppose BUSH at the next election if he is doing this. WHY? Because with a Gore in office, the public support in my state for requiring the federal gov't to begin a long term policy of returning lands to the people of the states will fly a whole lot easier with Al Gore trying to give them to foreign entities.

Bush has lost his friggin mind and absolutely lost my vote and gained my opposition if he even thinks about going down this apparent road. End of story.

The dam guy can not be trusted at that point. He said he was in favor of local control, and he's doing just the opposite. I hate a liar.

7 posted on 02/23/2002 7:35:26 AM PST by GotDangGenius
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To: hedgetrimmer
I just fed the birds and got my coffee, I had to read it first.
8 posted on 02/23/2002 7:36:45 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: GotDangGenius
In case you are not aware, let me remind you that ONLY CONGRESS APPROPRIATES MONEY.

In the CARA compromise of 2000, Congress committed to 100% appropriation for the Land and Water Conservation Fund Act for six years.The LWCF is the tool by which govt buys private land. They also made the same committment to Urban Park and Recreation Recovery, National Historic Preservation Act, and Indian and Federal Land Restoration.

The full funding for LWCF is $900 mil/year with the feds and the states each getting $450 mil. You will note that the article mentions the reduction in the federal portion for year 2002. Bush requested, and Congress complied, in diverting this reduction into grants for private land owners to make environmental improvements to their properties. The article mentioned further reductions for year 2003. This is not a done deal, but Bush will be requesting this further reduction when he submits his budget. As with 2002, the reduction for 2003 will be diverted to grants for private land owners.

If you want to stop the govt from buying private land, TALK TO CONGRESS.

9 posted on 02/23/2002 8:20:08 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I don't know why ya'll are sooo upset. The gov'ment already OWNS my land. It's called property taxes. If you don't believe me, just avoid paying yours for a couple of years and see what happens.
10 posted on 02/23/2002 9:55:51 AM PST by jaq
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To: jaq; farmfriend
BUMP
11 posted on 02/23/2002 12:25:52 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Enviralists; gov_watch;Funding the Left; grange_list
How can we stop the government from funding NGOs? Where and when in the federal register was the code changed so that government can give money to NGOs? I am very interested in finding out exactly when and how this travesty began. Anybody know?
12 posted on 02/23/2002 12:36:52 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Thanks for the flag.
13 posted on 02/23/2002 2:28:04 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: christie
You still freepin.
14 posted on 02/23/2002 2:28:53 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: Carry_Okie;SierraWasp;forester;B4Ranch;Ernest_at_the_Beach;sasquatch
Take a look at this one guys. I heard this was coming but don't remember where I saw it.
15 posted on 02/23/2002 2:33:33 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
What can be done?
16 posted on 02/23/2002 3:01:18 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Ben Ficklin
Good post, Ben.
17 posted on 02/23/2002 5:24:58 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: hedgetrimmer
Turn the land into such a financial liability because of Federal mismanagement that they want to off it. Prove to the public that marketing habitat management and restoration services is a better way to care for the environment. Believe it or not, we are making slow progress on that one even within government.
18 posted on 02/23/2002 5:27:17 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection;Roebucks;Carry_Okie;forester;Marsh2
Hey Roebucks! Still sold on THE Nature Conservancy and Ducks Unlimited?
19 posted on 02/23/2002 10:35:41 PM PST by SierraWasp
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To: GotDangGenius;Carry_Okie;farmfriend;Phil V.;Marsh2;AuntB;forester
"each county board or commissioners or managers will have the right to reject the transfer of title to the federal government from private hands"

All right, Mr. Genius, so you get elected County Commissioner and on the agenda of your next meeting is one of these landowners who has finally been tormented into becoming a "Willing Seller" by THE Nature Conservancy, or some such NGO, but he/she resents the torment so much that they just decide to see what the BLM is offering because they are scared and broke.

Now it just so happens that this tormented rancher is one of your constituients that voted for you and even held a barbeque/fund raiser for you hoping you could become their hero. But now he's cornered, scared, broke and you're even thinking about voting to keep him from throwing in the towel? You know he'll sue and the voters won't back your courage in the next election.

If you're using your election to Commissioner as a stepping stone to State office, or even the Federal Congress, the same people that came to the BBQ and threw money at your campaign will be at the next fund raiser of your challenger over the way you voted against this constituent in such an unfair and arbitrary way that suddenly no one but you understands.

But it really doesn't matter since you won't even be able to get one other vote to bar this sale from any of your colleagues. So fergeddaboutit. You're all full of righteous indignation over something that matters to very few people who are old enough to remember what America once was based on.

20 posted on 02/23/2002 10:55:24 PM PST by SierraWasp
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