Posted on 02/21/2002 12:53:22 PM PST by John Jorsett
Edited on 04/14/2004 10:05:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
LOS ANGELES -- With less than two weeks before the March 5 gubernatorial primary, a poll to be released today shows investor and former federal prosecutor Bill Simon closing the gap with ex-Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan.
Riordan on Wednesday began running ads attacking Simon, a departure from the ex- mayor's strategy of ignoring his Republican opponents to focus on Democratic incumbent Gray Davis.
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So why would any good Republican want to vote for that Rhino Riordan? The "Riordan's the only one who can beat Davis" line won't fly anymore. It't time for the CA GOP congressional delegation to start pulling their endorsements of that loser!
Among likely voters in a hypothetical Riordan-Davis matchup, 46 percent said they would choose Riordan and 40 percent said Davis. In a Simon-Davis matchup, 44 percent chose Davis and 40 percent chose Simon. In a Jones-Davis matchup, 44 percent chose Davis and 39 percent chose Jones.
This is the key point. The Riordan people -- especially the sell-out conservatives -- who said that we HAD to vote for Riordan because he was the ONLY one who could beat Davis, no matter how LIBERAL he is -- are WRONG. Davis is vulnerable, period.
The fact is, Riordan has the most baggage and would be the EASIEST candidate for Davis to beat. Riordan would be toast. Davis would be estatic to run against this flip-flopping liberal loser. The Republican base won't be there to walk precincts (some may hold their noses and vote for Riordan, but who, really, is going to get up early on a Saturday morning and walk precincts? Phone three nights a week? Talk glowingly about Riordan to their friends?) Davis will have HIS base ... the public employees unions ... but the Republican base will not come out for Riordan.
Simon can mobilize the base because he is a real conservative, a Reaganesque Republican, from the outside, with real solutions to the problems liberal career politicians have created.
This poll is great news. It shows that Simon is in striking distance. And, as Simon's "contrast" ads between him and Riordan go up today, I think this will turn even more to Simon.
Go Simon!
Perhaps Congressman David Dreier would like to be one of the first, as he steps away from his, so far, 'phony' conservatism.
Challenge him, Hugh. As a good friend, and a 'truth-seeker', why would any 'principled' Republican support Riordan, who has not only moderate feelings himself, but a flaming liberal for a wife.
Among likely voters in a hypothetical Riordan-Davis matchup, 46 percent said they would choose Riordan and 40 percent said Davis. In a Simon-Davis matchup, 44 percent chose Davis and 40 percent chose Simon. In a Jones-Davis matchup, 44 percent chose Davis and 39 percent chose Jones.
This is key! Now all the conservative legislators who said we have to support Riordan because he's the only one who can beat Davis need to eat crow. They need to pull their endorsement of Riordan. Riordan will destroy the Republican party and some of these legislators could lose their seat when Republicans don't get out and vote in November because Riordan is such a liberal jerk. Riordan is the WORST candidate for us with all his flip-flops and gaffes and problems.
Simon is the BEST candidate. His worst negative is that he didn't vote in a couple primaries. OK, not great, but certainly not the worst thing a candidate could do! At least he didn't raise taxes! Simon is the REAL conservative, the best Republican to take out Gray Davis. He's not a career politician, and he offers real solutions to the problems career politicians and liberals created.
We need to tell all the conservative legislators that endorsed Riordan they need to pull their endorsement NOW. Here's the list ... if you are represented by one of these people, call them! (I put a C next to representatives who claim to be conservative)
UNITED STATES CONGRESS
Mary Bono, Palm Springs
Ken Calvert, Riverside
C Christopher Cox, Newport Beach
C Randy "Duke" Cunningham, San Diego
C David Dreier, San Dimas
C Elton Gallegly, Simi Valley
Steve Horn, Long Beach
C Duncan Hunter, El Cajon
C Darrell Issa, Vista
Jerry Lewis, Redlands
C Howard "Buck" McKeon, Santa Clarita
C Gary Miller, Diamond Bar
Doug Ose, Sacramento
C Dana Rohrabacher, Huntington Beach
C Ed Royce, Fullerton
Bill Thomas, Bakersfield
ASSEMBLY
C Sam Aanestad, Grass Valley
C Roy Ashburn, Bakersfield
Russ Bogh, Yucaipa
C Bill Campbell, Orange
Lynn Daucher, Brea
Tom Harman, Huntington Beach
C Tim Leslie, Sacramento
Abel Maldonado, Santa Maria
Rod Pacheco, Riverside
Anthony Pescetti, Sacramento
Keith Richman, Granada Hills
C George Runner, Lancaster
C Mark Wyland, Vista
Bob Pacheco, Walnut
STATE SENATE
C Dick Ackerman, Fullerton
Bruce McPherson, Santa Cruz
Be nice when you call! Many of their staffers might not be Riordan supporters. Be nice to staff ... that's how your message will get through. Email them ... you can get their emails off their web pages.
House: House of Representatives
Assembly: State Assembly
State Senate: State Senate
I like the sound of that COULD-- and we can make it sound even better. Go Simon!!
note that Simon's press secretary on another thread said that the internal numbers were closer. And, this poll was 900+ total voters, only a little over 300 statewide for Republicans, hardly accurate.
Everything that I've been hearing, this is going to be a low, low turnout election and the lower the better Simon does. And, this poll was taken 2/4-2/14, before the last debate and before Simon was tv as much as he is now.
I think that Riordan's internal polling shows the race neck and neck otherwise, why would he attack? He wouldn't. It's bad strategy if you're really far ahead.
We received a fund raiser letter from RHINOdan today. My first wife wrote across it "If Susan Estridge is voting for you then you are a Democrap.
good question. I wondered, too, but I think it's difficult to conduct an accurate poll because there are so many decline-to-state voters who could choose to vote in the Republican primary. Does anyone else know?
The article said,
"The poll ... shows ... support from likely GOP voters,"
which seems to mean voters registered as GOP, but could mean all voters who intended to vote GOP.
I agree. Blame it on the Legislature. It should have been moved back to June. But everyone in Sacramento thought that it would be too confusing to move our primary around.
Why not have it the second Tuesday in April all the time? Right before we file our tax returns ...
Not a dumb question, considering some of the stupid, idiotic questions pollsters ask.
They ask 900 voters what they think about a host of issues. If they are Republican or DTS, they ask how they plan to vote in the Republican primary. That gives you a much smaller group. In this case, it was about 350 voters, not large enough for a statewide sample. Then, they pick likely voters based on past voting history to determine what low turn-out might yield in terms of changing the poll numbers.
This poll shows Simon gaining steadily, but it's not an accurate poll . California has 30 million people, and about 10-12 million registered voters ... they need more than 350 Republicans to poll to get a good indication.
Great News! SIMON IS A WINNABLE CANDIDATE! The old saw about 'winnability' is always in the eye of the beholder. Davis has too much baggage. He will go down. Get out there and support Simon, Cali Freepers, Please! We have a shot at having a Conservative Republican as CA Governor! Who'dathunk?
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