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What's Worse Than A Dead Beat Dad?
"The Other Parent" website ^ | February 21, 2002 | The Other Parent website (Robert J. & Marie A. Baker, Jr.)

Posted on 02/21/2002 8:32:12 AM PST by Saundra Duffy

Divorce is bad enough - a bloody nightmare - but what happens to families in the aftermath of divorce is even worse. I was pretty ignorant on the subject until my son was faced with the most God awful challenge of his life. The following is from a web site created by a husband and wife who are outraged and hurt over the entire process. Thanks, FReepers, for reading about and contemplating these issues.

I am writing this letter to tell the country about a cruel injustice and blatant discrimination that is going on in the U. S. right now.

My wife and I are both divorced with children from a previous marriage. We have both been granted Joint Legal Custody of our children and are both named the Non-Custodial parent. We are ordered by the court to pay child support every month, and the Custodial parent is ordered to allow visitation.

Here is the injustice:

If we fail to pay child support the custodial parent has a government agency to get the money for the parent with no out of pocket expenses.

If we fail to return the children to the custodial parent at the end of the visitation I can be charged with Kidnapping, which is a felony.

However:

If the custodial parent ignores the court order and refuses to allow visitation as ordered, we are forced to retain an attorney to have the case tried, which takes time and money. The police department will not enforce the court order. The courts require a petition filed (which can take months and be very expensive). Social services will not help either.

Furthermore, the most the custodial parent can be charged with is Contempt of Court, which is a misdemeanor.

Where is the justice in this? One parent has a government agency to protect them while the other parent has to retain an attorney, wait months, and hope to be granted a new court order, that the custodial parent can also ignore.

Money due for child support can be collected any time, but the missed days of visitation can never be replaced.

It is not just the parent that suffers either. The child is robbed of time with their other natural parent, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and siblings. And the family members of the non-custodial parents suffer as well.

Lately there has been a lot of talk about "Dead Beat Dads", but no talk about the other parent, the ones who love their children and cherish every moment they get to share with their kids.

Even though we have Joint Legal Custody, we do not have joint legal rights or protection. The current laws need to be updated so that the other parent gets the same protection from the government.

We are urging everyone that has had a similar problem, known someone with this problem, or just thinks this is unjust, to write their congressman and senators demanding a change in the laws as well an agency for the protection of the other parent. In all fairness we deserve the same rights and protection the custodial parent has.

You can also write us and we will forward your letters to congress and senate.

"THE OTHER PARENT"

c/o Robert J. and Marie A. Baker Jr.

4615 Port Tobacco Rd.

Nanjemoy MD 20662

Names and addresses are optional but we will require a city and state so we can forward the letters to the correct politicians. If a name is included it will be held in the strictest confidentiality. All letters and E-Mail we receive will be used only for the purpose of lobbying Congress. Some may be posted on this board if permission is given in writing.

The email address is: rrrrbrt@bellatlantic.net


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God bless our families who are facing these terrible tribulations. It just tears people up. For victory & freedom!!!
1 posted on 02/21/2002 8:32:12 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Saundra111@msn.com)
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To: Saundra Duffy
PING for my dear son who hasn't been able to see his kids for over three months now.
2 posted on 02/21/2002 8:33:10 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
Did you know that women can file FALSE report and get a restraining order and the poor Dad is left without a prayer?
3 posted on 02/21/2002 8:34:07 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
PING in hope this post will not die.
4 posted on 02/21/2002 8:47:15 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
Did you know that women can file FALSE report and get a restraining order and the poor Dad is left without a prayer?

That's what my mom did to my dad.

She then moved her lawyer into the house my dad built. I was 13 and I asked to live with my dad. My mom's boyfriend lawyer motioned in court that I be psychologically tested to determine if I was 'competent' to make such a decision at 13. He claimed in court that my dad had 'warped' me against my mom.

Before I was allowed to live with my dad in a two room apartment after we were exiled from our own home, I had to spend my 8th grade summer being psychologically tested by a weirdo in birkenstocks and black socks.

5 posted on 02/21/2002 8:54:19 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: chookter
Oh, my God! I'm so sorry. When his ex found out my son is getting married, all hell broke loose.
6 posted on 02/21/2002 8:58:14 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
I was raised by a single mother who was a war with my father. As a result I have not seen him in over thirty years. The good news is that I figured out what a evil harpie my mother was, and I have not talked to her in over twenty years. In fact, I have not talked to anyone in my family for over twenty years now, and I never will again. This is the legacy that divorce can lead to. Oh, and I don't have any kids, nobody is ever going to call this guy a f*th*r. This is the worst name I could ever think of being called, after listening to my harpie mother go on and on about "your f*th*r this" and "your f*th*r that". Bah. Families are highly overrated.
7 posted on 02/21/2002 8:58:26 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Your post made me cry, pal. God bless you.
8 posted on 02/21/2002 8:59:57 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
My Pop never remarried. He died while I was in the Army in Korea.

When he died, my mother came back and tried to get part of the inheiritance (not a fortune, just some land in NM) that he left me. I had to hire a lawyer and spend money to fight her off.

9 posted on 02/21/2002 9:03:49 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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This thread, and all of its replies are the best argument for abstinance I've ever heard.
10 posted on 02/21/2002 9:04:05 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Saundra Duffy
Wait until you get rid of this wife and get to the point of "mine, yours, and ours." Then you see how you start splitting them up. My view is that you are far less concerned with the children than you are with rubbing your former spouse's nose in it. There are real problems out there, problems that were/are way beyond the control of those involved. They are the ones that need to be fixed, not those where you are responsible for your own bad judgment and decisions.
11 posted on 02/21/2002 9:04:58 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Maybe your dad wasn't so bad - just worn out from dealing with her. Have you not thought of looking him up?
13 posted on 02/21/2002 9:06:30 AM PST by oil
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To: chookter
I had to spend my 8th grade summer being psychologically tested by a weirdo in birkenstocks and black socks.

Ah, so now the picture becomes clear...;-)
Just kidding. From what I've seen you weathered that storm.

Shameless plug: A Father's Place

14 posted on 02/21/2002 9:07:09 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: Tacis
So are you criticizing this post or what? What's your point?
15 posted on 02/21/2002 9:08:08 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Ward Smythe
A Father's Place - Nice site. Thanks a million. Some people may find help and hope today. For victory & freedom!!!
16 posted on 02/21/2002 9:09:41 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: oil
No, because my mother poisoned me too strongly against him. If I ever met him my first question to him would be "did you ever have sex with your mother?" This is what my mother accused him of, among other things. You really wouldn't believe how she would go on and on about how rotten he is/was, sometimes for hours at a time. Just thinking about it makes me numb. Besides, he truly was a "dead-beat" dad, he never paid any child support at all. He didn't care about me, why should I care about him?
17 posted on 02/21/2002 9:11:14 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: GalFromTheBay
You're a good Mom, obviously. God bless you.
18 posted on 02/21/2002 9:11:23 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Ward Smythe
Ah, so now the picture becomes clear...;-) Just kidding. From what I've seen you weathered that storm.

Whoa... Thank you very much. I owe all of my success (and even survival) to my Pop.

He was a great and wonderful man. I miss him greatly. I've read some of the articles you have posted from 'A Father's Place'--good stuff. It is impossible to overestimate the value of a father in a family.

All I had was my father and he made all the difference. We both knew it. I made sure that he knew how much I appreciated what he did for me.

I'm living now in the house he built. Perhaps in more ways than one....

19 posted on 02/21/2002 9:14:46 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: Saundra Duffy
Don't knock up women that you don't intend to be married to permanently and you won't have these kinds of problems. Or conversely, don't be knocked up by a man that you don't intend to be married to permanently and you won't have these kinds of problems.

If you don't bother to learn about the character of your partner and your compatability with your partner prior to bearing children with him/her, then there are consequences for all parties... especially the children.

20 posted on 02/21/2002 9:14:56 AM PST by flada
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