Ok Dane, I'll concede that point to you.
Now onto another point, the one raised in post #13.
If people have a right to determine what kind of society they live in, aren't they exercising those very rights when they dictate to the Scouts that they must accept gays and atheists?
I think CJ, Dane and KC have been backed into a corner with that question. No responses - they just ignore it. I've posed it to them in another way before - "If the majority votes against what you want/believe, is it ok", and the only reply is "The Constitution still has to be followed." Their refusal to answer such questions only convinces me more that they are just trolls.