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To: freeeee
...that individual is not one bit more moral than without the law.

I agree completely. The threat of force does not make people moral. I was just saying that the same applies to the Libertarian morality of "no force, no fraud" : if you refrained from fraud only because of the threat of force, you would still be immoral. And you would still question the right of law enforcement to threaten you with that force.

To make matters worse, once people begin to assume law is morality, they believe anything legal is moral.

Conservatism, in my view, is about matching the law as closely to morality as possible. There will never be a perfect match, and people should be made aware of this, but it is wrong to forbid things that are no immoral, or allow immoral things to be done unpunished.

208 posted on 02/19/2002 11:40:59 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Smile-n-Win
are no immoral -> are not immoral

(I hope Roscoe will not consider this correction as a racially motivated attack on Hispanics!!!) ;-)

223 posted on 02/19/2002 12:01:43 PM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Smile-n-Win
it is wrong to forbid things that are no immoral, or allow immoral things to be done unpunished.

"Everything not prohibited is mandatory"

Sorry, but I had to say it.

227 posted on 02/19/2002 12:25:51 PM PST by freeeee
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