[southern rock]

But when the ideologues chime in on how people have no right to determine what kind of a society they are to live in and what the laws should say,

So, for the record, in this case, you side firmly with the people of Santa Barbara and their duly elected officials to " determine what kind of a society they are to live in and what the laws should say".

Gotcha! Just want to let everyone know what side you are on, CJ.

[Cultural Jihad]

Had the County Commissioners (or for that matter 99% of the electorate) decided that porno palaces and orgy pits have to close in their neighborhood, the L.P. would be the very first one to howl and writhe in pain. If the County Commissioners (or for that matter 99% of the electorate) were to say that NAMBLA could not meet in public library meeting rooms, the L.P. would quickly shed its faux holy image to defend these perverts, too. But rest assured they'd think twice about how to spin their toleration of evil in their press release.