You don't see the difference do you? If you wish to view that material, go find a community that accepts it. You want nudy bars, find a city that allows them. You see, we don't FORCE our morals on anyone. We create communities with common standards, and you can choose to live there and share the standards or live elsewhere. If you want to make a similar org to boyscouts that does allow homos, we won't stop you. You see the difference. We respect communities and groups. Democrats don't.
How would you have chaos without initiation of fraud or force?
If you base force on YOUR definition, people become unable to control the very surroundings that they live in. If my neighbor wanted to have a crack party with naked hookers in his front yard. It becomes my obligation to lock my kids up so they won't see it. Only those without standards would flourish in your dream society.
Furthermore, unlike individuals within voluntary associations, communities hold no rights.
Individuals withing COMMUNITIES hold rights as well. And that includes, just as with the associations, to agree upon standards with each other.
Too many in your party however, would enforce their moral values over the entire country.
Too many in your party would enforce their "no standards" values on the entire country. So instead of giving communities/cities/states the ability to decide whether they want drugs legal, Libertarians wish to force ALL of them to legalize, rendering them without the ability to choose.
Please see post #134.
Only those without standards would flourish in your dream society.
Those with no standards would be hopelessly doomed in our society. There would be no one to save you from yourself and save you from the consequences of your irresponsible actions.
No one will force people to employ, house or associate with the immoral element. One would develop standards quickly, or die. Such would not support the accumulation of those who lack standards.
Because of this, those with no standards: substance abusers, the sexual promiscuous, the lazy welfare recipient, etc... would surely perish of their own doing. Hence, the strong dislike of libertarians among liberals/socialists.
LOL!!! DemocRats respect nothing but communities and groups -- hence, their various flavors of identity politics.