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Campaign Finance Made Simple
NewsMax ^ | February 14, 2002 | Dr. James L. Hirsen, J. D., Ph. D.

Posted on 02/14/2002 3:43:21 PM PST by Map Kernow

"Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech." – The First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America

"The Senators and Representatives … shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution." – Article VI of the Constitution of the United States of America

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." – 5 U.S.C. 3331

Rejected, 237-188, an amendment to H.R.2356 by House Majority Leader Dick Armey that stated that nothing in the bill could violate the First Amendment.

"The ability of unions, corporations and nonprofits to fund broadcast 'issue ads' would be restricted if the ads referred to a federal candidate and ran within 60 days of a general election or 30 days of a primary." – Washington Post, Feb. 14, 2002, "Key Provisions: Shays-Meehan."


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1 posted on 02/14/2002 3:43:21 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow
These bills in the Congress, are Nuremburg Laws, they strip the American people away from our Constitution and with each such law, our Constitution from us.
2 posted on 02/14/2002 3:51:57 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: Map Kernow
No editorial comment necessary.

You are correct! None SHOULD be needed but just in case there are those who can't figure it out!

Every single member of congress, regardless of party affiliation, who voted for this abomination clearly SHOWED you their lack of regard for The United States Constitution and the oath of their office!

3 posted on 02/14/2002 4:13:59 PM PST by Bigun
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To: Map Kernow
I am still trying to figure out exactly when free speech started to cost millions.
4 posted on 02/14/2002 4:18:02 PM PST by DonkeyHodee
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To: Map Kernow
How the HELL can they get away with rejecting an ammendment saying that it WILL NOT violate the First Ammendment? For the love of God, how can even the media ignore that hipocrisy? Are conservatives the ONLY people who notice this?

I know most folks don't care one way or another about this issue, but they WOULD if they knew the whole story! The American people still, by and large, believe in their rights if nothing else!

5 posted on 02/14/2002 4:27:55 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: DonkeyHodee
Are you serious??!!

Just in case you are serious and just plain stupid I'll answer. "Free" speech refers to FREEDOM of speech. The ability to speak without hindrance from the government. "Free" speech is opposed to tyranny not to "paid" for speech. "Free" refers to ability not cost.

6 posted on 02/14/2002 5:43:47 PM PST by rebel
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To: DonkeyHodee
The concept of "freedom" is that the individual has the freedom to choose to spend millions or not.

If the candidate won't listen to anyone who doesn't spend millions, whom do we punish the rights of the individuals or the corrupt candidate? The rationality for this law is akin to gun control with the idiotic assumption that if you outlaw guns there won't be outlaws. The only difference and it is large, is that if we outlaw speach ... who is going to talk about it?

7 posted on 02/14/2002 5:59:48 PM PST by ImpBill
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To: rebel
He's not serious. He's been disrupting here for about a week now. Just ignore him, perhaps he'll just leave.
8 posted on 02/14/2002 6:31:04 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: ImpBill
Refer to post #8. Donkey's been playing here for about a week. Just ignore him.
9 posted on 02/14/2002 6:32:18 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: rebel;Long Cut
"Free" refers to ability not cost

According to SCOTUS, money is free speech. Handle it.

10 posted on 02/14/2002 6:34:01 PM PST by DonkeyHodee
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To: DonkeyHodee
According to SCOTUS, money is free speech. Handle it.

Not quite, money is speech and therefore people must be free to use it as they wish -- a subtle but important difference. Conversely, speech is much broader than money -- it doesn't require it, nor does it deny it.

11 posted on 02/15/2002 1:03:32 PM PST by NilesJo
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To: NilesJo
. Conversely, speech is much broader than money -- it doesn't require it, nor does it deny it.

Neither does free speech have anywhere near the potency at overcoming free speech that spending money has. Massa's in the house, all little people must talk in whispers.

12 posted on 02/15/2002 4:00:43 PM PST by DonkeyHodee
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To: DonkeyHodee
Massa's in the house, all little people must talk in whispers.

Ideas attract money and money searches out good ideas, that's the nature of a free market system. Equating the advantage of money in politics to oppression by the wealthy is just more "envy politics" -- an extension the socialist ideal of "equal outcomes."

Inviting he government to control ANY form of speech will just invoke the law of unintended consequences and people will find new ways to circumvent the law and in four years we'll hear the cries of political corruption and "campaign finance reform" again. Its a FOOL's game but forntunately for the pols, there's an endless supply of fools.

13 posted on 02/17/2002 6:24:05 PM PST by NilesJo
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