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To: FresnoDA
I don't see whats wrong with this. In most high schools any kids can form any club as long as they have teacher approval. I don't see anything wrong with Gay-Straight alliance. Of course now I'm going to be flamed, told I'm going to hell just because I tolerate other people's sexuality and told about all the evils of public school.
7 posted on 02/14/2002 2:12:16 PM PST by ChicagoRepublican
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To: ChicagoRepublican
No flames my friend, but the predomininant opinion of those parents present were that they opposed this trend. The board asked for those opposed/favor of the motion to stand. 30 (mostly husky women) stood in Favor, 300 plus parents stood in opposition. The board took the position they did to avoid legal entanglements! In fact, the 30 in favor were asked to identify themselves, and most had no residence in the school district, nor children in the school district. They were simply Homosexual Activists who admitted that they had targeted Clovis Unified because of the conservative majority of familes in the district!! As for your concern of flaming for your sexual tolerance, you have already asked and answered. FresnoDA
14 posted on 02/14/2002 2:18:03 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: ChicagoRepublican
told I'm going to hell just because I tolerate other people's sexuality

The only thing that sends people to hell is rejection of Jesus Christ as their saviour. But your attitude regarding sin speaks volumes about where you stand in relation to the Lord.

29 posted on 02/14/2002 2:31:26 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: ChicagoRepublican
Of course now I'm going to be flamed, told I'm going to hell just because I tolerate other people's sexuality and told about all the evils of public school.

Since FDA was so nice to you let me do the honors:

Couldn't have said it better myself!

34 posted on 02/14/2002 2:34:51 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: ChicagoRepublican
re:
"..Of course now I'm going to be flamed....."

Not by anyone with a brain (and I'm happy to see
so many with a brain are here on this thread!)

You'll find there's some fear among the "right wingies"
regarding the supposition that one's sexual preference
can be swayed by association and/or education. 
It's an interesting concept, isn't it?

If you ask any of those same "conservatives" if they
could ever be persuaded to become homosexual, they
will insist they can not. But they manage to believe that
others can.

The desire to be with, love, or to have sex with, either
the opposite or same gender, cannot be changed. You
can no more change a heterosexual into a homosexual,
than you can change a homosexual into a heterosexual.

You'll hear stories about "psychological conditioning"
and "behavior modification" doing a great job of stopping
homosexuality in it's tracks, but they don't mention how.

The process involves the showing of pictures of the same
gender sexual organs as the "patient" and delivering a
painful jolt of high voltage electricity with each viewing.
That of course, will make the mere sight of the same 
sexual organs as the recipient, repulse that recipient 
(the mind is a wonderful thing). What they don't tell folks,
is the victim is usually left asexual. That is, not only repulsed
by the sight of their own organs, but devoid of sexual 
desire for the opposite as well. I suppose you'll see 
posts recommending that procedure as a great remedy 
for one's son or daughter. sooner or later. Or perhaps JR 
has thinned the ranks of the once very far right constituency?

In my opinion, God designed us all, for whatever reason 
He had. Some march to the beat; some have their own 
drummer, but we all should be marching in the same parade.
Freedom, is to allow those around you to live in the
lifestyle they choose without fear. 

There are times on "FR" that it almost appears the "conservative" 
political wing that had long spirited Freedom and Liberty for all,
has become a freedom robbing group, not unlike a certain more
liberal and socialistic political party.....

That doesn't appear to be the case yet on this thread and it warms
the heart to see common sense prevail.

(I thank you for posting against an anticipated firestorm,
it took guts)

56 posted on 02/14/2002 3:31:12 PM PST by Deep_6
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To: ChicagoRepublican
I don't see whats wrong with this. In most high schools any kids can form any club as long as they have teacher approval. I don't see anything wrong with Gay-Straight alliance. Of course now I'm going to be flamed, told I'm going to hell just because I tolerate other people's sexuality and told about all the evils of public school.

My understanding is that by law if the school allows after-school clubs of one type to meet then they must allow clubs of any nature. There might be some restrictions on what is allowed, but I would guess that such restrictions could at most prohibit activity within the club rather than the club itself.

In order to legally prevent a gay-straight club from forming, the school would have to ban all clubs from meeting. I recall that a school district in Utah did this, banning all existing clubs (including a few religious-oriented ones) because they had no other legal option for blocking a proposed gay-straight alliance.

There are caveats having to do with faculty involvement, and I'm not sure how they would apply here. Still, it's nice to see so many FReepers who would rather the school district break the law than accomidate a requested club.
59 posted on 02/14/2002 3:37:05 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: ChicagoRepublican
gonna be flamed...........ya got that right...........speaking of right.........there is a right and wrong..........and guess what?????........homosexuality is wrong..............no question about it.
90 posted on 02/14/2002 5:24:25 PM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: ChicagoRepublican
It all SOUNDS so tolerant, so reasonable, so where a "progressive community ought to be." However, everywhere you look these days, you are being bombarded with the radical homosexual agenda. They're in everybody's face, wanting to be heard, to be more than included--to be lionized for their manner of having sex; to EXPLAIN to your kids just how unjustly they're treated.

We're supposed to spend time being beaten over the head with their victimhood and if we dare to see homosexuality as a deviant, unproductive lifestyle leading to no good in society, let us be stoned for our intolerance--we're homophobes, even if we accept them as Productive Human Beings in their work, admire their creativity, and offer friendship--nope we're intolerent, gay-bashers if we can't approve their lifestyle.

There is NO WAY this club is going to promote tolerence. It is going to split this community and entice some teens with raging hormones to try homosexuality, get thoroughly confused and maybe think they're "gay." And this attitude is RAMPANT throughout the country--AND getting federal money for school programs.This club should be named The Gay and Lesbian Recruitment Club.

Vaudine

106 posted on 02/14/2002 10:08:59 PM PST by vaudine
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