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To: HamiltonJay
All I am going to say is that, I am not going to jump to conclusions... yes not checking on your children for 12 hours if true is a bit strange in the situation portrayed. But I am not going to level virdict against them as bad parents because they may or may not have been swingers.

Did you not jump to conclusions when passing judgement on the young woman whose baby was stolen from the bus station on Christmas eve? Why are you reserving judgement on these parents when you have no trouble deeming the other one irresponsible.

Did being swingers make them "bad parents"? Who knows? On the surface, they were irresponsible. They were certainly irresponsible on that night. You can call failure to check your kids for 12 hours straight strange, but I call it irresponsible. If they had a good reason for not checking the kids, any reasonable person would have given one, don't you think? And since we're not a judge and jury and they're not on trial for being swingers, I'm not going to apply courtroom levels of evidence to my speculation. Since I'm not a juror and they're not on trial, I'm free to construe their lack of denial of their lifestyle as a confirmation. Any reasonable person would deny it if it weren't true.

As to whether their lifestyle led to their failure to check on their children, that's a different story....

But I want to make it clear that I in no way believe that this whole thing is some sort of divine punishment for their lifestyle, or for being "bad parents". We only know that on that particular night they behaved irresponsibly. I have no idea how they treated their kids every other night.

620 posted on 02/12/2002 12:58:18 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: wimpycat
Did you not jump to conclusions when passing judgement on the young woman whose baby was stolen from the bus station on Christmas eve?

No I did not, I assumed at first it was a child snatching, only days later did I get a picture of the full story. A story that included a woman who knowingly allowed a complete stranger to take her child and leave her site, who decided to accept a car ride from said stranger with her children etc etc... At that point I decided this was not a moment of misdirected attention, but a series of very poor decisions that lead to this situation. That is when I questioned her ability to be an effective guardian.

Believe me if these people are shown to have engaged in activity that directly led to or endangered their children I will shout from the highest mountain tops that they are bad parents. But I will not subscribe to the mob mentality on this thread that simply because they may have engaged in sexual activities outside of the public norms that that defacto makes them bad parents, have their children taken away and be burned at the stake.

Maybe we better take their other two kids off them right now and call Ned Flanders to perform an emergency baptism on both of them immediately to prevent them from moral rot...

623 posted on 02/12/2002 1:58:40 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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