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Haselock: We did not mean to stigmatize the reputation of the KLA
BETA News Agency | February 7, 2002 | BETA

Posted on 02/11/2002 11:22:39 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus

Haselock: We did not mean to stigmatize the reputation of the KLA

PRISTINA, 7 February 2002 (Beta) - The head of the UNMIK Information Office, Simon Haselock, stated today in Pristina that the arrest of former members of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) were not intended "to stigmatize the reputation of that organization", but he warned that no one can be immune from the law.

Individual acts cannot influence the reputation of an organization, said Haselock.

Demonstrations throughout Kosovo towns were organized by certain forces which desire to realize their own narrow interests, he indicated, without specifying, however, to which forces he referred.

According to Haselock, the Kosovo judicial system will also concern itself with crimes committed prior to the time the UN mission assumed administration of the province since, according to Haselock, there is no statute of limitations on criminal acts.

He indicated that the arrest of former members of the KLA was carried out after a long investigation, which began after the deployment of NATO forces on Kosovo territory.

"The accusations are related to crimes perpetrated against Albanians, including also women and minors. They were arrested, tortured, beaten up and then killed. These crimes are not committed against soldiers during a state of war, but against unarmed civilians," said Haselock.

According to him, the UN mission is endeavoring to form an independent Kosovo judicial system and this system will be developed independently of the political process.

Despite a warning from UNMIK, the organization committee for protests to be held tomorrow has called for new mass demonstrations in Pristina as a sign of protest against the arrest of the former members of the KLA.

Translated by S. Lazovic (10 February 2002)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 02/11/2002 11:22:40 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Ichabod Walrus
This just in:

Churchill: "We did not mean to stimgatize the reputation of Hitler"

2 posted on 02/11/2002 11:28:14 AM PST by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son
Individual acts cannot influence the reputation of an organization, said Haselock.

In other words, individual acts cannot influence the reputation of al-Qaeda.

3 posted on 02/11/2002 11:33:38 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: *Balkans
Balkans bump
4 posted on 02/11/2002 11:37:37 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Ichabod Walrus
Update on the arrested KLA-ers:

[Source: B92]

Bail refused for former Liberation Army members

19:53 PRISTINA, Monday – An international panel of judges has refused an application for the release of three members of the former Kosovo Liberation Army, the UNMIK office in Pristina announced today.

The three former members of the National Liberation Army are in custody over charges of involvement in six murders and the kidnapping and physical assault of Kosovo Albanians who opposed Liberation Army policies during 1998 and 1999.

They have been on a hunger strike for the past six days.

5 posted on 02/11/2002 3:54:56 PM PST by Dragonfly
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To: Hoplite, Torie, Wraith, Wonders, Bluester, Spar, Fusion, Crazykatz
Hoplite

Hope it is finally starting to become clear (to you) exactly who was murdering, torturing, and terroring loyalist and moderate Albanians.............at least UNMIK & Kfor now are willing to go public with the fact that it was the KLA.

Turns out Gashi was 2nd in command of Remi's unit. Remi's unit was the most 'active' KLA unit with Ramuch a close second. So, what we have here, my dear Hoplite, is the most active largest KLA unit being discovered by none other than UNMIK to be engaged in the murder, torture, and terror of Albanians.

By these arrests, UNMIK has effectively admitted Clinton's War was based on a lie. Hoplite, are you finally willing to admit just how wrong you were in supporting Clinton's War ?

6 posted on 02/12/2002 5:48:34 AM PST by vooch
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To: vooch
Just one thing here Vooch, you do acknowledge that Albanians (civilians) were tortured and killed by Serb police, military or paramilitary as well?
7 posted on 02/12/2002 7:08:15 AM PST by bluester
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To: bluester, Joan
Did government forces sometimes act in violation of the laws of war ? certainly, just like sometimes members of the NYPD or LAPD act illegally.....the key question is whether such illegal and immoral behaviour was supported by higher command

In the KLA's case, it is clear that there was a orgainzed campaign to terroize loyalist and moderate Albanians by the highest level KLA commanders. The arrest of Gashi 2d in command of Llap OZ confirms what many have been saying about the KLA for a number of years.

Name a case and we can discuss the specifics of it.

8 posted on 02/12/2002 7:18:02 AM PST by vooch
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To: vooch;bluester
any real comments bluester or are you going to keep repeating the same thing?
9 posted on 02/12/2002 7:42:41 AM PST by FireWall
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To: FireWall
I keep on repeating the facts. That and nothing more. If you don't like them, doesn't mean they are not true. Sorry.
10 posted on 02/12/2002 8:03:14 AM PST by bluester
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To: vooch
Did government forces sometimes act in violation of the laws of war ? certainly, just like sometimes members of the NYPD or LAPD act illegally.....the key question is whether such illegal and immoral behaviour was supported by higher command

Vooch, I was talking about things far beyond any illegal practice of NYPD or LAPD. Not treatment of fellons or criminals, but ordinary people, civilians, killings, deportations. More serious things.

11 posted on 02/12/2002 8:05:32 AM PST by bluester
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To: bluester
“I keep on repeating the facts. That and nothing more. If you don't like them, doesn't mean they are not true.”

You keep on repeating allegations. It doesn’t mean they are true, even if you do like to report those “facts”.

The problem has been the propensity to lie and simply make up the most atrocious stories - exhibited by so many throughout the whole duration of these conflicts. The media has spread many of these totally false stories and rumors to whip up anti-Serb sentiment. Blame has often been misplaced, as well. They've even gone so far as to show dead Serbs, victims of Muslims or Croats, as non-Serb victims of Serbs - several times. And yet I don't believe they've ever falsely accused Muslims or Croats of any killing that they didn't do, nor have they used the bodies of non-Serbs and falsely claimed them as Serbs.

Just because a person tells a “story” filled with atrocities does not mean it is true; just because the press repeats lies and rumors doesn't mean they were true.

http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/1999-12/27johnstone.htm

As was to be expected, the ethnic Albanian refugees told their Western interviewers what they wanted to hear.

Several of the most harrowing tales told by ethnic Albanians about their Serb adversaries have turned out to be totally false: notably the reports of thousands of bodies thrown into the Trepca mines, among others. It is reasonable to suspect that other stories were also untrue.

Raimonda, the young Albanian woman who claimed to be killing Serbs to avenge the ghastly murder of her little sister, turned out to have made up the whole story for the benefit of the Western TV journalist looking for real-life drama. Later, her little sister was found to be alive, well and unharmed. The girl's relatives shrugged this off: "If her little lie helped the Albanian cause, that's just fine", her father reportedly commented. It is unlikely that this attitude is unique or even rare.

http://www.ce-review.org/00/33/vaknin33.html

That Serb journalists and Serb-sympathizers would be enviously badmouthing their more prosperous colleagues in the bombarding West should hardly come as a surprise to anyone—that Albanians join the rumour-mongering is baffling. But what really makes one pause for thought is that identical stories circulate among the personnel of the more august establishments: think tanks, aid organizations, NGOs and the Western media themselves

Yet NATO lied incessantly, on needless issues and with a pronounced lack of imagination. Remember the two captured Yugoslav pilots? The murdered Rugova? Arkan in Kosovo? 100,000 Albanians in mass graves? Another 100,000 tortured in the Priština stadium? The media reported all this dutifully, suspending its own professed standards, engaging in slanted reporting and reproducing prepared NATO statements as eyewitness accounts (a grave breach of ethics).


12 posted on 02/12/2002 9:02:16 AM PST by joan
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To: vooch; spar; Wraith; Bluester; Travis Mcgee, Joan; Marmema
UNMIK has made a terrible blunder in arresting these innocent Albanians. Unless this error is rectified immediately, there will be far reaching consequences beyond what the fragile UNMIK mission will be able to sustain.

Who are the United Nations to decide who is innocent or guilty in Kosovo province? These "white collar terrorists" have no authority to harass Albanian freedom fighters that are charged by the people with protecting Kosovo province and Greater Albanian hegemonism from the jack-boot of Slavic expansionism. I suspect that if these men are not released within 72 hours then the weekend will see "innocent" European NGO staffers neutralised in Kosovo province.

All Albanians are outraged by this miscarriage of justice. The United Nations nothing more than a well financed terrorist organistion that seeks to export freedom sapping socialism around the world. If the UN wishes to continue funding Islamic militants in the Sudan by making food shipments during peak harvest times to the Christians in the South (thus allowing food to be traded for weapons in the North) as part of their New World Order conquest of African peoples they had better wake up in Kosovo province. The KLA is quite happy to get their weapons from the East -- UN bookeeping skullduggery and nation building in Africa means nothing to the descendents of Ancient Illyria.

Quite frankly, if the UN headquarters were located anywhere but New York, I imagine KLA sapper teams would have stormed the building and taken hostages by now. Fortunately there are plenty of other UN facilities around the world with a lot less security. Does the UN really wish to gamble their house of cards on the illegal arrests of three innocent Albanians?

KLA/UCK cadres now prepare to defend the Tetovo Republic from the coming Macedonian "surprise" attack and liberate the Presevo Valley from Serbian hegemonism. If the need arises it is no small task to have several hundred gunmen launch a popular uprising in Kosovo province to fight for the rights of all men to be free.

With the entire world soon to be at war, does the European Union really wish to fight the Kosovo Liberation Army in the Balkans? Does the UN really wish to see a half dozen non-American NGO workers liquidated in the coming days?

UNMIK will free the Kosovo Three or the Balkans will burn beneath the righteous fire of Albaniansim. Those that torture these innocent men in their hellish captivity soon to know the wrath of the Code of Lek.

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

13 posted on 02/12/2002 9:21:45 AM PST by Fusion
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To: Fusion
LOL! You are a joke Fusion! A complete and not funny joke.

Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists
George W. Bush

It is VERY obvious which side YOU are on! LOL!

14 posted on 02/12/2002 10:02:18 AM PST by ninachka
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To: ninachka
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists

I know this is repeated here constantly, but there are more then two choices you see. Some people do not support terrorism, but they also don't support everything that is supposed to be anti-terrorism, yet in many occasions it's only taking care of someone's economic interests (oil pipelines) and targeting those that may not want to cooperate in such business. But I don't think you'r capable of such self-criticism, especially not in the present climate in the USA.

15 posted on 02/12/2002 10:17:42 AM PST by bluester
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To: bluester
I am quite capable of critisising my country when the need arises.

For example: Having Saudi Arabia as an "ally". What a joke. It is high-time the USA cut it's toes with the Saudi's and dig in our own backyard for the oil we need (Alaska).

And another: The US was dead-wrong to bomb Yugoslavia and support the terrorist drug-dealing thugs that are the UCK. I was very embarrased for my country when we did that.

Here's a third mistake: Not interceding in Rwanda and trying to prevent the actual genocide that occured there.

16 posted on 02/12/2002 10:55:37 AM PST by ninachka
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To: ninachka
Make that: Cut its' ties...
17 posted on 02/12/2002 10:56:22 AM PST by ninachka
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To: Fusion; vooch
we shall talk again on this subject in spring.
18 posted on 02/12/2002 10:58:29 AM PST by Spar
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To: ninachka
Does your criticism include this as well? :

Civilian deaths

19 posted on 02/12/2002 11:03:32 AM PST by bluester
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To: bluester
No, it does not. Afghanistan deserved to be bombed due to the Taliban and the connection to bin Laden and al Quaeda. The Taliban were told repeatedly to hand over bin Laden and the al Quaeda leaders being harbored inside Afghanistan and they refused. They got bombed. People died. This is what happens during wars. Every war has civilian deaths. The responsibility for these deaths goes to the Taliban leaders who refused to meet our demands and hand over the terrorists they were (and continue to) harbor. I have no problem with this at all.
20 posted on 02/12/2002 1:26:27 PM PST by ninachka
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