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BT in court to enforce hyperlink patent
New Scientist ^ | February 11, 2002 | Kurt Kleiner

Posted on 02/11/2002 9:43:29 AM PST by Oxylus

BT Group PLC will appear in a New York federal court on Monday to try to enforce a patent it says covers all hyperlinking. BT claims it invented the hyperlink in 1976, and anyone who uses the World Wide Web owes them money.

If upheld, the patent would give BT the right to collect royalties from any Internet Service Provider.

BT sued Prodigy Communications after the ISP refused to purchase a license for the right to use hyperlinks, the clickable links that connect one web page to another. If Prodigy loses the case, other ISPs would also be charged royalties.

BT was granted the US patent back in 1989. It had been filed when the then-Post Office was developing an online information service, called Prestel. Patents were also granted in other countries, but have since expired.

BT sent letters to 16 ISPs in June of 2000 after someone in the company rediscovered the patent in its files. The patent expires in 2006 but, if upheld, ISPs could owe huge back royalties.

"We believe we have a duty to protect our intellectual property and we would expect companies to pay a reasonable royalty based on the revenues that they have enjoyed through the use of that intellectual property," a BT spokeswoman told Reuters.

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But critics say the patent claim is overly broad and could drive up the cost of the internet access for users. It could even allow BT to decide who gets to use the web and who does not, they say.

"Is it good public policy to allow patents like this? I think this claim illustrates the problems you've got with the patent system," says James Love, director of the Consumer Project on Technology, a Washington-based advocacy group. "They would have an exclusive right, the right to stop you cold from using the Web."

Other critics do not think the patent will hold up. Gregory Aharonian, publisher of the Internet Patent News Service, has written that the patent will probably be invalidated because some people were using similar technology before 1976.

One potential piece of "prior art" can be seen on a 1968 video clip, where Stanford researchers demonstrated an online editing system that uses hyperlinks.


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1 posted on 02/11/2002 9:43:29 AM PST by Oxylus
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To: Oxylus
Is it possible to file a class action suit for criminal and fraudulent patent application and conspiracy to commit extortion?
2 posted on 02/11/2002 9:46:43 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Oxylus
I invented the letter B, so BT owes me all the money it has.
3 posted on 02/11/2002 9:47:34 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Oxylus
I thought Al Gore invinted hyperlinks.
4 posted on 02/11/2002 9:48:51 AM PST by Digital Chaos
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To: Lazamataz
I invented the letter B, so BT owes me all the money it has.

Sorry, Laz, but I invented the letter T. We'll split the proceeds.

5 posted on 02/11/2002 9:53:02 AM PST by malakhi
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To: Oxylus
I haven't seen the patent so I don't know what they claim or if those claims mean anything. They claim to have invented the hyperlink in 1976. Others claim to have used it before that. Would be interesting to know when the filed for the patent issued in 1989. If the trial goes on there will be a lot of discussion about what was invented and when it occurred. Also the action of the patent office will be carefully scrutinized. Could be an interesting trial.
6 posted on 02/11/2002 10:00:26 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: angelo
I inventewd BTTT so both of you give me all your money!
7 posted on 02/11/2002 10:04:25 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Lazamataz
"I invented the letter B, so BT owes me all the money it has."

That's silly... Leters cant be patented, only copyrighted.

Seriously, if you don't renew a patent (and pay the maintance fee) it reverts to public domaine. I know, some of mine have...

Also, patents used to run for 17 years (now it's 20), and the patent is not valid if it was ever used before, or a discription ever published before the application was made. It is not common knowledge, but a patent search means nothing. You dont even have to have one made. It just protects you from wasting your money on patenting something that is in public domain.

If the patten supposedly expires in 2006, it would have to have been patented in 1989. When was the supposeed patent application?

This is a bunch of BUNK!

8 posted on 02/11/2002 10:09:28 AM PST by babygene
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To: babygene
This is a bunch of BUNK!

You owe me one dollar.

9 posted on 02/11/2002 10:11:58 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
You owe me one dollar.

Bullsh*t.

10 posted on 02/11/2002 10:22:15 AM PST by general_re
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To: general_re
Bullsh*t.

Two dollars for using B in a profanity. Thank you for patronizing our fine letter!

11 posted on 02/11/2002 10:25:00 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Oxylus
Poor reporting. No mention of the patent number. Of course, big innovations should be patentable. The system works, and invalidates those that were improperly issued.

It is loony to suggest that the inventor (if the patent were valid) would shut down the Internet. No, the inventor would collect a reasonable royalty for his innovation, during the patent term, and then it would thereafter be dedicated to the public, just as the framers intended. We don't deny patent rights for REALLY important inventions. We let the inventor set the price.

12 posted on 02/11/2002 10:30:21 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Sunshine Sister
I was never vaccinated for TB, so give me all your money and their money or I'll breathe on your food...
13 posted on 02/11/2002 10:31:12 AM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: Oxylus
Interestingly, the first use of the term "hyperlink" in any US patent was in an application filed in 1993 (USP#5,325,533.)
14 posted on 02/11/2002 10:33:48 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Skip Ripley
Let me give you an idea how how much money I have. If you want all my money, you owe me! And while you are at it, give me all your letters too. I'm going to sell them!
15 posted on 02/11/2002 10:34:48 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Skip Ripley
I was never vaccinated for TB, so give me all your money and their money or I'll breathe on your food...

Not without my say-so -- I invented breathing.

16 posted on 02/11/2002 10:37:16 AM PST by Sloth
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To: Beelzebubba
The system works, and invalidates those that were improperly issued.

No, it doesn't work. Rather than invoke legal costs of indeterminate amount, several companies have actually licensed Amazon's ludicrous "One-Click" patent.

There is prior art on hyperlinks going back to the 1960s, and a description of hypertext was published in 1945.

17 posted on 02/11/2002 10:42:47 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
I didn't say that the system works perfectly, but it works better than anything else for its intended purpose as stated in the Constitution:

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

18 posted on 02/11/2002 11:07:52 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Lazamataz
I invented the letter B, so BT owes me all the money it has.

So logically they only owe you half their money.
Did you or did you not invent the lettet "T"?
We're worried about you Laz...

19 posted on 02/11/2002 12:51:18 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: FreePaul
Apple published their HyperCard program, which is a hypertext system, in 1987.

HyperCard was one of the inspirations for the World Wide Web. Here is an article by the inventor of WWW (no, not Al Gore). Of course, 'hypertext' is a concept even older.

This document was an attempt to persuade CERN management that a global hypertext system was in CERN's interests. Note that the only name I had for it at this time was "Mesh" -- I decided on "World Wide Web" when writing the code in 1990.

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"Hypertext" is a term coined in the 1950s by Ted Nelson [...], which has become popular for these systems, although it is used to embrace two different ideas. One idea (which is relevant to this problem) is the concept: "Hypertext": Human-readable information linked together in an unconstrained way.

W3
20 posted on 02/11/2002 1:14:08 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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