[Hank Kerchief]

I said: "We know they feel no pain."

You said, "How's that? Did you ask them?"

I could say, I remember. Fact is, you just didn't read what I said, which was this: "Accelerated heart rates and 'brain waves' occur in people under anesthesia when they are operated on. We know they feel no pain." The antecedent of "they" is "people under anesthesia," and they do not feel pain. Isn't that the whole point of anesthesia?

As for the unborn, there is no evidence that they "feel" anything, anymore than a person under anesthesia, who also reacts to what would be pain, if they could feel it. No one can actually perceive what a unborn experiences, and the visible evidence is proof of nothing. Most people would prefer to assume the worst in all cases, however. If the unborn feel pain, they must ask themselves, what their God's purpose would be for that, I mean other than pure cruelty. My God does no allow the unborn to feel pain.

Hank

[AndrewC]

My God does no allow the unborn to feel pain.

Do you make it a habit of telling God what to do?

I will not post the relevant biblical passages to counter your notion that the "unborn" are insensate, but I will post this reference to a study which is counter to your intuition.

Womb Music

Facing the Music

For the study, "How Music Heard in the Womb is Remembered by the Child," 12 expectant mothers were asked to choose a piece of music that they enjoyed and to play it to their babies for the three months before the birth.

When 11 of the children were one year old they were tested for recognition of the music by being placed in a room with two speakers. The study does not say why one baby was not tested.

  New Ultrasound Gives Womb With a View

Each speaker played a piece of music: One was the prenatal music and the other was a piece of music chosen for its similarity in key, pace, and loudness. Atop each speaker was a ball with colored lights.

Researchers recorded the length of time the babies spent looking at each ball — implying they were listening to each piece of music.

Each baby, none of whom could speak, showed a clear preference for the music they had been exposed to while in the womb. A control group of children showed no preference for either piece of music.

[MEGoody]

Actually, you are quite wrong on this. Numerous studies (as well as anecdoctal evidence) shows that babies do feel and react to various sensations. They withdraw from the needle during an amnio, they shy away from light, etc. I'd still be interested to know if you have any studies that you can cite to support your view.

[Sam's Army]

"My God does no allow the unborn to feel pain."....Great, now can you cite where that is in a religious text of any sort?

[VRWC_minion]

My God does no allow the unborn to feel pain.

My God lets mothers drown their children. Wish we had your God in charge.

[oldvike]

Since you seem to have all the answers in life, could you tell me which lottery numbers to play this week?