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FBI failed to get Lindh's statement in writing
Miami Herald | Feb. 8th 02 | LENNY SAVINO AND FRANK DAVIES

Posted on 02/08/2002 3:24:57 PM PST by Grut

FBI failed to get Lindh's statement in writing
BY LENNY SAVINO AND FRANK DAVIES
fdavies@herald.com

WASHINGTON - The FBI may have violated its own rules in questioning John Walker Lindh by not taping or transcribing his statements, and that could determine the outcome of the case against him, experts said Thursday.

The FBI's only record of its two-day interrogation of the accused Taliban fighter is a summary form written by the agent who questioned him. Lindh did not sign the form.

`WHERE'S THE PROOF?'

''Everything turns on the confession. If it's thrown out, where's the proof?'' said former federal prosecutor Gregory Wallance, now a private attorney in New York City.

The defense and prosecution agree the case depends largely on the FBI's account of an interrogation with Lindh on Dec. 9 and 10 while Lindh was a U.S. military prisoner at Camp Rhino in southern Afghanistan. But the FBI's interview with Lindh appears not to have been recorded, an FBI agent testified this week, or transcribed and signed by Lindh.

Prosecutors say other witnesses and incriminating statements by Lindh back up what the government characterizes as a confession, but Lindh's defense team plans to attack the FBI's interrogation procedures and Lindh's treatment before responding to the FBI's questions. The government has said Lindh waived his right to an attorney, but the defense said he requested an attorney and was denied one.

Lindh, who turns 21 on Saturday, is charged with 10 counts of conspiring with Afghanistan's Taliban government and the al Qaeda terrorist network to kill Americans. He faces life imprisonment with no possibility of parole.

In a filing this week, defense attorneys argued that while at Camp Rhino, Lindh was stripped, bound, blindfolded, taped to a stretcher and kept outdoors in a metal shipping container with only one blanket to keep warm. After two to three days, he was taken from the shipping container to a tent and his blindfold removed. At that point, defense lawyers contend, Lindh asked an FBI agent for a lawyer and was told none were available.

RIGHT TO LAWYER

That's not what the prosecution's filings say. They say Lindh waived his right to a lawyer voluntarily and ``stated that he has been treated well by the military, and has received adequate food and medical treatment while in their custody.''

Here's the prosecution's problem: When asked at a bond hearing Wednesday whether any recorded or written statement was taken at Lindh's alleged confession, FBI Special Agent Anne Asbury answered: ``To my knowledge, no.''

Asbury said that she was not the agent who interrogated Lindh, and that she had flown to Afghanistan and prepared Lindh's arrest affidavit from the information provided on another agent's report.

The FBI's ''Legal Handbook for Special Agents'' states: ``Where possible, written statements should be taken in all cases in which any confession or admission of guilt is obtained.''

When a written statement is prepared, the suspect has the right to correct and amend it before signing it.

The FBI has offered no explanation as to why taking a written statement would have been impossible in Lindh's case, but a U.S. law enforcement official, who asked not to be identified, said Thursday that agents broke no rules.

On occasion, he said, an agent's official report on an interview, called a Form 302, can be used to document a confession. Typically, the agent fills out the form based on notes taken during questioning.

Beth Wilkinson, a former prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing cases, said the FBI often does not tape interviews.

''Just sitting there taking notes is less intimidating than taping and helps you get information,'' she said.

Legal experts say the government's highest hurdle will be convincing a jury that Lindh made the statements the FBI says he made and that they were given voluntarily.

''The case rises and falls with the confession,'' said Henry Hockeimer, a former federal prosecutor now in private practice in Philadelphia. ``It's a tough case from the government's standpoint because you may not have other facts to corroborate the conduct he supposedly confessed to.''

Despite the controversy surrounding the alleged confession, it will be hard for a judge to not allow the FBI's version of Lindh's questioning given widespread public sentiment against him, said Jon Sale, a former Watergate prosecutor and private attorney in Miami.

''In a perfect world, the burden is on the government to show Lindh knowingly waived his rights,'' Sale said. ``In the real world, given that the public views him as a most heinous traitor, it would take a lot of courage for a judge to throw out that confession.''

BUILDING A CASE

Lindh's lawyers, by their questions, appear aware of the FBI's rules on confessions and intent on using them to build a case for rejecting his confession.

Prosecutors, in their brief filed this week, said they plan to buttress the FBI account of Lindh's statements with a CNN interview with him on Dec. 2 and statements he allegedly made to U.S. soldiers who detained him in Afghanistan.

''The government will say there's nothing wrong in [soldiers] asking questions, especially in a battlefield situation,'' said Mark Tushnet, a constitutional law professor at Georgetown University. ``But whether you can use that in a criminal prosecution is a tough question.''

Sale said the CNN interview would likely be admissible ``if it can be shown that Lindh was lucid enough to know what he was saying.''


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Way to go, FBI!
1 posted on 02/08/2002 3:24:57 PM PST by Grut
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To: Grut
The FBI may have violated its own rules in questioning John Walker Lindh by not taping or transcribing his statements, and that could determine the outcome of the case against him, experts said Thursday.
I can't use obscenities, right?
2 posted on 02/08/2002 3:28:22 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: Grut
No problem. I say drop all charges against him and let him walk right out of the front door. How far do you think he would make it?
3 posted on 02/08/2002 3:31:22 PM PST by Mixer
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To: Black Jade
FYI
4 posted on 02/08/2002 3:33:34 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Grut
Arrgh, ok, FBI messed up. Just take expletivehim back to Afghanistan, and let the NA guys process him. I'm sure they would not forget to get the confession, if it is indeed needed for their courts.
5 posted on 02/08/2002 3:35:21 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: Mixer
No problem. I say drop all charges against him and let him walk right out of the front door. How far do you think he would make it?

Not far, I would hope.

6 posted on 02/08/2002 3:35:21 PM PST by Tom Jefferson
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To: Grut
One would think that in one of the most high-profile cases in U.S history, certainly one that is breaking new ground, the FBI would play it by the book and turn itself inside out to cross the Ts and dot the Is.

But, I'm sure that it's more important that the agents look good physically with beautifully coiffed hair and straight, whitened teeth. Since that's all that's important to America, investigations properly done be damned. $%&$ investigations!

7 posted on 02/08/2002 3:35:44 PM PST by yikes
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To: YaYa123
We did hear this!
8 posted on 02/08/2002 3:36:42 PM PST by mombonn
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To: Grut
How about a link?
9 posted on 02/08/2002 3:37:41 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: Grut
Besides other corroborating evidence, there's also still the possibility of filing a Treason charge. One witness might be the CIA agent to have escaped the uprising at Mazar-I-Sharif, and a second could probably yet be turned.

Barring that, strip him of his citizenship and send him back to Karzai's new government.

10 posted on 02/08/2002 3:38:00 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Grut
They were too busy monitoring internet users with their new powers to be concerned with securing evidence in one of the biggest cases ever to fall into their laps.

Keystone cops at it again.

11 posted on 02/08/2002 3:40:02 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Grut
Wow! This is a surprise, the FBI screwing up?

How could this be possible?...why on teevee they never bleep up anything.

12 posted on 02/08/2002 3:40:22 PM PST by ninonitti
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To: Grut
General question:

Did the FBI do anything right recently?

Did not notice a Russian spy. Did not notice 9/11. Managed to turn an interrogation into a rebellion. Now this.

13 posted on 02/08/2002 3:41:22 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: Asclepius
I'm in the "let's wait and see" group. Ashcroft specifically said we had his confession in writing and on tape--I don't know if he meant video or audio, but let's wait and see. Defense lawyers often do a lot of posing and misinforming pre-trial. The judge would be smart to place a gag order on this trial.
14 posted on 02/08/2002 3:41:28 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: yikes
The FBI is almost 100% Clintonista. This was done on purpose to embarrass Bush and to further Clintonism.
15 posted on 02/08/2002 3:41:36 PM PST by Rustynailww
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To: onedoug
If the FBI screws this up it will be past time to reorganize completely the whole sorry organization. Reduce the personnel by giving them a test asking each agent to spell his name. That ought to get rid of 60 percent.
16 posted on 02/08/2002 3:41:44 PM PST by gaspar
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To: Mixer
"...No problem. I say drop all charges against him and let him walk right out of the front door. How far do you think he would make it?..."

52 feet, 7 and three quarter inches. (actually a little farther if you measure to where his left little finger ends up)

18 posted on 02/08/2002 3:41:58 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Grut
He was also held aboard the USS BATAAN for what seemed a couple of weeks. What happened there?
19 posted on 02/08/2002 3:42:05 PM PST by onedoug
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To: gaspar
And who is going to administer the tests? Illegal aliens?
20 posted on 02/08/2002 3:43:23 PM PST by mvonfr
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