Posted on 02/06/2002 10:05:38 AM PST by Registered
Has that connection been established?
I don't know that they're Jewish or not, nor that it necessarily matters- but if they are involved with American Jewish Communist or Socialist front organizations, it certainly wouldn't surprise me, and it would help explain the *kid gloves* treatment they've received in Colorado.
I thought we were dealing with things that are factual? Not for a connection you would "look for", but one that exists. And not what suprises you and doesn't. How about facts? I wouldnt' be surprised if you think that Elders of Zion are true, but I am not making a thread out of it, am I?
Well, of course Marx himself held the Jewish religion in particular contempt, as did many of his fellow Jews of that same period who made the 1917 Revolution possible- Leon Trotsky of course comes to mind.
Right, right. I was born in USSR and lived there till 11. Long enough to go to soviet schools and listen to enough of propoganda. The enemy were capitalists/bankers (ie, Jews, who by the way left Russia by millions right before the revolution...). Who shot Lenin? A jewish woman. That's what was talked about. Jewess shot lenin, Jews ran out of the country right before the revolution, Jews are the reason why we still haven't reached communism, Jews are bankers, capitalism/zionism, blah blah blah. Jews manage to come out on top on different sides of many arguments, and you can spin it how you like it, depends which side you will take. A communist for example will take the opposite side of you, but will still blame Jews for the capitalism that's "ruining the world".
He is an arab (or part arab). Apparently his family changed their name to Bishop from Bishara.
"Lenin's death was entirely unexpected, as he had made steady progress for some time. At first he had only been allowed to hear the headings of the newspapers, but latterly he has taken an almost autocratic part in directing his own convalescence, and himself chose what portions were to be read to him. His paralysed right arm made writing impossible, but his attendants learnt from scraps of paper in his room that he was secretly teaching himself to write with his left hand. Since then improvement has been rapid, and before Christmas he was even able to go out shooting in the forest. Only the other day Kamenev announced to a meeting that Lenin was actually recovering and would return to his post.His long drawn-our fight against his illness has saved the country from the shock that would have been dealt by his death had that occurred with his first stroke, but even so his death has come at a moment when, during the recent party discussion, his absence has been particularly felt, and at a moment when the part dispute is scarcely ended, and on the eve of the first Union Congress. His death is a blow not only to the Communist party, but to all Russia. Even the irreconcilable enemies of the Revolution are unable to disguise their respect for one of the greatest figures in Russian history.
Side note: Lenin during his illness, wrote a letter to the Russian Congress warning about Stalin and not to elect him as general secretary. This letter was given to Leon Trotsky who did not deliver it per Lenin's request. Trotsky was murdered in Mexico City by Stalin's thugs.
No room for hoaxsters on FR. Some of us are trying to do some serious research to get to the bottom of tragic crimes like this.
Alamo-Girl, discount anything archy posts.
No room for hoaxsters on FR. Some of us are trying to do some serious research to get to the bottom of tragic crimes like this. Per Pluumz post in #153, I posted a link to their cowhead logo in my post.
In addition, from that article:
Julia Bishara had changed her and son Charles' last names, from Bishara to Bishop. She told officials she made the change because ‘Bishara’ is an Arabic name and the U.S. was at war with Iraq, and subsequent news reports pointed to this as evidence that young Charles had had no contact with his "missing" father.
Team coverage was clearly the right way to go.
The MadCowMorningNews has learned that this may not be the whole story. We had puzzled over why the divorced woman hadn't reverted to her maiden name, Detore. She changed her name instead to Bishop.
"The entire Bishara clan in Winchester changed their names to Bishop," a long-time native of Massachusetts told us. "They anglicized it."
Six years after "small time hood" Charles Bishara had supposedly left his ex-wife and son's lives for good, had Julia Bishop changed her name to match her ex-husband’s?
Mother Julia and son Charles lived a rootless, nomadic lifestyle, moving from town to town and school to school, news reports indicated, without saying why. Julia Bishop listed five addresses in the Tampa Bay area. Charles had attended at least four schools there. It was a virtual prescription for maladjustment.
Behind the walls of his gated community, Charlie nursed a grievance.
One boy who lived on the same cul-de-sac told a reporter he would see Charlie walking his dog. "I said `Nice dog' a lot to him, but he never said anything back. I would smile, but he wouldn't smile back.''
The collapse of the official story of Charles Bishop's flight leaves troubling questions unanswered.
Where did the straight "A" Kamikaze Kid get the crazy idea that flying a plane at 160 miles an hour into a building after praising an Arab terrorist with a sideline in narcotics trafficking was going to be just way cool?
Does the identity of the Kamikaze Kid's father have anything to do with the manner in which the son "acted out?" Does this help unravel the mystery of just who it was that targeted innocent civilians for murder on September 11?
Accordingly, it does indeed appear that the Bishara family of Charles Bishara/Bishop in Florida, does indeed have ties to the Middle East and very possibly also to organized crime elements on the US Eastern Seaboard.
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Well, I do hate to say it, but it is unfortunately true. You can find fine examples of this sort of statement on any Israel- or Islam- or whatever-bashing thread.
Perhaps, but Charles Bishop was a Young Republican. Hardly brought up as a liberal. YRs do tend to be the conservative of the conservatives. http://www.sptimes.com/2002/01/12/TampaBay/Family_paints_pilot_a.shtml
Additionally, this letter contradicts the "he loved America" image that was promoted immediately after his suicide.
He had encountered Al-Quaeda members. The 9/11 attackers were instructed to "fit in" in America. Joining the Young Republicans could have been a part of this strategy.
Well, that casts the old man in a different (and worse) light than he presented in the interview on the news,
His father is a MIA/wanted man. Are you certian that the press interviewed his birth father and not some other man?
The U.S. will have to face the consequences for its horrific actions against the Palestinian people and (illegible, could be Iraq?) by its allegiance with the monstrous Israelis who want nothing short of world domination!G'night all!
Tried that link at yahoo. Nothing about this at link.
Just me?
Did that yahoo link work for you?
Why did you resurrect this thread from 2002? I don’t get it.
It stems from my longstanding interest in ancient history and archaeology. ;’)
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