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Why H-1B Visas are Bad for America (Big Business Scam Alert!)
FrontPage Magazine ^ | Robert Locke

Posted on 02/04/2002 6:15:27 PM PST by JoeMomma

Robert Locke


Robert Reich: Consistent Liberal

Why H-1B Visas are Bad for America
By Robert Locke
FrontPageMagazine.com | January 24, 2001
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AMERICA'S GENEROUS IMMIGRATION LAWS are increasingly being corrupted and taken advantage of by self-aware economic interests. Take, for example, the H1-B visa program for technical workers, which was recently expanded to 200,000 people per year by the Clinton administration. H1-B allows corporations to bring in cheap foreign technical labor in the computer industry and elsewhere. This is shrinking opportunities for American citizens, driving down their wages, and stunting the production of homegrown talent.

Industry likes to tell the public that they need to bring in foreign workers because of a so-called "labor shortage." But the very concept of a labor shortage is a sophistry that has no place in free-market economics. Economics teaches that in a free market there are never shortages of anything, only things whose price, as set by supply and demand, is higher than some person wishes to pay. There is not a technical job in America that could not be filled with an American citizen if the employer were willing to pay the right price. The fact that the company in question "cannot fill" the position is merely a function of their desire to set an arbitrary price that they feel like paying. This is not the way of the market, and frankly it is a form of corporate decadence for them to go running to the government for a subsidy in the form of cheap foreign workers.

The emerging pattern in American society has a sinister resemblance to the decadent sheikdoms of the Gulf, which can't pump their own oil without massive foreign labor: Americans handle the financial and marketing side of things while we let foreigners do the engineering and the hard stuff. The national-security implications alone are chilling.

Furthermore, because we have this supply of foreign labor, we let our own technical education system slide, and we never liked math that much in the first place. Frankly, until American industry is served notice that it will have to supply its future technical needs from our own people, it has absolutely no incentive to care. Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich stated "The H-1b program "has become a major means of circumventing the costs of paying skilled American workers of the costs of training them." (Those who blanche politically at taking the word of a liberal like Reich should in fact rejoice at the sight of the opposition being hoisted on its own petard by one of its very few intellectually consistent members.)

H1-B helps promote age and other forms of discrimination by giving companies a ready supply of foreigners who don't have any uppity American ideas about their rights and who can be silenced by threatening to send them back where they came from. Because even companies that don't employ H1-B workers can threaten to do so, H1-B has a chilling effect on industry as a whole.

Though the H-1b has been sold as providing companies access to the "world's best and brightest", reality differs from the sales pitch. The law states the alien must have "a bachelors degree or equivalent". Hardly indicative of the world's best and brightest. Experience shows that the people imported are, in general terms, no better or no worse than domestic workers. Nobody objects to bringing in Nobel-calibre scientists and the like, but this is a tiny number of people, not 200,000 per year.

There are entire companies in America now where native-born Americans are not welcome. Some of them are even growing fat on defense contracts. H-1b visa holders are often "benched" when imported by a contract engineering house or "body shop". They will be brought in and benched until the contract firm has a job opening they can fill. Often they are not paid until they actually go to work at a client firm of the contract house. They may be provided a place to stay, and a small amount of spending money until they get on the payroll.

The final idiocy of the recent raising of the H1-B quota to 200,000 per year is that it was done just as we are almost certainly overdue for a recession. People tend to assume that all technology workers are rich dot-com entrepreneurs; in fact, 95% of them are ordinary middle-class Americans.

The Labor Department has nominal regulations on the books to protect American citizens, but these have so many loopholes as to be ineffective. For example, although Labor Dept. regulations require companies to pay at least 95% of the prevailing wage, companies are free to use biased data in establishing what this wage is. The survey data is always suspect because it is provided by the very companies who will benefit from the results. They spin the data by grouping employees into inappropriate categories, by selective reporting, and by outright dishonesty. Companies who do not use foreign labor are reluctant to answer the survey as it entails some cost and time which could be spent on more productive corporate endeavors. Furthermore, because H1-B workers depress wages, their prevailing wage tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. No one ever checks the results of the survey.

Industry likes to claim that it needs H1-B workers "to be competitive in the global economy." However, they can't get even Clinton's Labor Department, which has overseen this massive giveaway program, to buy their line. Department of Labor Office of Inspector General Final Report. Report Number: 06-96-002-03-321 Titled "The Department of Labor's Foreign Labor Certification Programs: The System Is Broken and Needs To Be Fixed" dated 1/24/97, states "In our opinion, not all types of jobs being filled by H-1B aliens necessarily represent jobs that would enhance U.S. employers' abilities to compete in a global economy."

Congress has repeatedly agreed, year by year, to expand the number of H1-B visas, always in exchange for provisions designed to protect American citizens. But this congressional intent is being frustrated.

Charles C. Masten, Inspector General, H-1B Labor Condition Application (LCA) program made the following comments. "Audit findings in a recently issued OIG report found that both programs fail to adequately protect American jobs or wages, as intended by Congress.  The audit discovered that the Department's role amounts to little more than a paper shuffle for the PLC program and a "rubber stamping" for LCA program applications….The OIG also found that the labor market test, which is designed to ensure that there are no qualified U.S. workers available to fill the positions for which the application has been filed, is perfunctory at best… Despite annual expenditures of approximately $50 million on DOL's foreign labor certification programs, the OIG found that DOL's role in the PLC and LCA programs did little to add value to the process of protecting U.S. workers' jobs and wages."

America's high-paying technical jobs are one of its most precious assets and they should not be squandered on foreigners.  America has been the most competitive nation on earth for years without importing mass foreign technical labor.  We are sending a message to our young people not to take technical careers, where they will be forced to compete against cheap foreigners, and making ourselves dependent on people with no intrinsic loyalty to us.  The entire H1-B program should be abolished, and the few authentic geniuses out there should be brought in under other, existing programs."

 

You can e-mail Robert Locke at lockerobert@hotmail.com.

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To: Allman_Brothers_Rule
Fat, lazy, stupid piece of human waste you are. Taking statements made out of context, to try and make me feel bad.

Well, it didn't work. Try again, sucker. I don't owe you a dime.

I quoted your post in its entirety. If you feel bad think about what you said.

41 posted on 02/04/2002 8:04:39 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Allman_Brothers_Rule
Hey, can't compete, put up your feet!

Do you always insult people you don't know? Or is that the way you argue when you have nothing else to say?

43 posted on 02/04/2002 8:07:12 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Allman_Brothers_Rule
These H-1B VISA holders you crap on built our technology powerhouses, so that losers like you could post your idiotic unproductive, and un-American messages.

I hope we get more of them, and less of the complaining lazy fat people like you.

They create jobs and keep the USA competitive, while people like you always find a new way to leach off the system. Pathetic.

You go girl. Is that you Rosie?

44 posted on 02/04/2002 8:15:39 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: JoeMomma
A very timely article. In Detroit over the last year we have lost about 75,000 engineering and technical jobs, nearly all of them from middle aged, middle level, typically white, males. The only resort they have is temporary contract work, competing with the H1-Bs directly. Their retirement is gone, their kids education consist of night school at community college, they cannot get decent insurance as their health fails and they are destined to live out the remains of their lives doing these temporary jobs.
BUT!
The Crap filled management, like the ex Ford CEO Nasser and his hero Jack Welch, pride themselves in how much money they have saved the company by screwing as many people as they can get their hands on. And the poor H1-B saps are just useful idiots in this sick game.
45 posted on 02/04/2002 8:23:49 PM PST by det dweller too
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To: det dweller too; UnBlinkingEye
Here's a Feb '02 article from a tech contractor who's worried about the flood of H-1Bs driving down the wages he can demand to support his family. Behold the trrue purpose of the H-1B -- driving down salaries.

Read it an get mad.

46 posted on 02/04/2002 8:28:34 PM PST by JoeMomma
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To: JoeMomma
Here's a Feb '02 article from a tech contractor who's worried about the flood of H-1Bs driving down the wages he can demand to support his family. Behold the trrue purpose of the H-1B -- driving down salaries.

Read it an get mad.

I'm already mad about this stab in the back to our own people. Congress and their allegiance to their corporate backers bear the responsibility. Globalism is antithetical to the Constitution and America.

49 posted on 02/04/2002 8:40:45 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: koba
koba, I'm very well aware of that...It's true. I also believe that our government is too quick to capitulate to industry chieftains on matters of immigration when it should be trying using its influence to create the conditions where more Americans have an incentive to go into technology areas.

A few decades ago, engineering was a big thing in America and millions of people went into the field. Somewhere down the line, and I don't know why, but engineering and science in general became something of a less cherished life pursuit in America. It became all about money, law, media, medicine etc. (a doctoral thesis could be written on this and why). Meanwhile many of our schools with the NEA's and liberals' help went to hell.

Yet, what’s done is done and now the task of fixing this stands before us. America simply cannot forever import technical help and expect to remain a superpower long-term. And the excessive granting of H1-B visas is only aggravating the problem. Maybe many of our high tech companies should contract out more to other nations for their technical needs. At least this would stabilize the situation in America until a longer term solution emerges.

50 posted on 02/04/2002 8:43:22 PM PST by WRhine
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To: UnBlinkingEye
LOL ... Mr ABAG can't stand opposition to his beloved left-wing corporate welfare program, can he? ;-)
51 posted on 02/04/2002 8:45:12 PM PST by JoeMomma
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To: UnBlinkingEye
I'm already mad about this stab in the back to our own people. Congress and their allegiance to their corporate backers bear the responsibility. Globalism is antithetical to the Constitution and America.

... and Mr ABAG claims we're bolsheviks for protecting the American Consitution and American interests. ABAG has sold his soul to corporate profits, and could really care less about the Consitution.

I hope Tom Tancredo runs for Congress again next year. We need him to continue the good fight against un-Constitutional corporate welfare.

52 posted on 02/04/2002 8:47:53 PM PST by JoeMomma
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To: WRhine
Yeah...engineering until recently used to be a lot less paying than medicine (it still is somewhat less-paying) and did not have the glamour of a field like law. Nobody ever put out a show called "L.A. Engineering" but they have put out "L.A. Law" and "L.A. Doctors." It's still considered somewhat of a "nerd" profession too. These are some possible factors in why Americans generally don't go into engineering as much as in other fields and why the foreign-born are more and more represented in it.
53 posted on 02/04/2002 8:50:18 PM PST by koba
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To: Allman_Brothers_Rule
Go join the Communist party, because obviously, free markets, personal rights in who to and not to hire, and private legal contracts between an employer and an employee are not things you are a fan of.

The ironic thing about your neo-con positions are that it results in America getting swapped with 3rd world peoples that have very little appreciation for the values of our republic, system of governance, and heritage. Yes, they tend to vote for the party of socialism...particularly the Mexicans. It is people like you that are raising taxes on people like me because YOU want cheap labor. If we ever get communism or heavy socialism in America (we already got socialism-Lite) we can thank you free-trading jokers that can't think ahead more than one year.

54 posted on 02/04/2002 8:57:10 PM PST by WRhine
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To: JoeMomma
Mr ABAG claims we're bolsheviks ...

I think ABR is a member of NOW, she certainly seems to use the same techniques.

BTW what does the acronym ABAG mean?

55 posted on 02/04/2002 9:07:11 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: koba
Nobody ever put out a show called "L.A. Engineering" but they have put out "L.A. Law" and "L.A. Doctors."

LOL. Yeah, try getting a show like "L.A. Engineering" into production. Yep, TV has played a significant role in shaping American minds...most of it in the wrong direction. America has become a victim of her own success to some extent.

56 posted on 02/04/2002 9:08:05 PM PST by WRhine
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To: UnBlinkingEye
BTW what does the acronym ABAG mean?

Allman Brothers Are Gay

It's really ruffles his feathers, even though I like the Allman Brothers really. ;-)

57 posted on 02/04/2002 9:10:04 PM PST by JoeMomma
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To: Allman_Brothers_Rule
You'd just salivate at the opportunity to regulate my ability to conduct my small business, wouldn't you?

didn't Ken Lay say that last week?

Time for a new verb.
If getting a congressional hit squad to destroy your reputation is "getting Borked".
And getting a hummer from the lowly office help is "getting a Lewinsky"
Wouldn't having your CEO destroy your company and career be " Getting Layed"?

58 posted on 02/04/2002 9:10:23 PM PST by det dweller too
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To: Allman_Brothers_Rule
After reading a few of your posts I begin to get an ugly picture of what you must be like.

An arrogant ignorant A$$ whole who is squandering his inheritance pretending to be an entrepreneur. Surrounded by suck up yes men who hate your guts and can't wait to see you go under.

I could be wrong, but that is the image you present.

59 posted on 02/04/2002 9:17:11 PM PST by eazdzit
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