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To: ArGee;wwjdn;J.R.R. Tolkien;spookbrat;jmj333;eodguy;brad's gramma;dakmar; fiddlstix;Tourist Guy...
Wonderful ideas that I first saw presented on Greg Koukl's website ArGee. (no doubt these ideas are represented in many places) I knew you would have a thoughtful response.

It seems that more and more our leaders are devoid of moral directions to use as foundations when making laws. This bodes ill for the future of this country. I am amazed at how many Christians feel it is ok to support these politicians. The churches hands are further tied with agreements with the IRS which limit their speech even within the very walls of the church.

It is the lack of morality polluting our society to a point where no one will be safe to live a moral life. In fact if left to continue the idea of right and wrong will be non existent and no compass will be able to determine the way north.

Obviously many so called conservatives and Christians alike will in fact be no different from the most liberal and morally corrupt among us. They will no longer have the capability to discern Good and Evil, Right and Wrong. All it seems to take is a crowd of hyenas to heckle and bay at the moon. and those who stand by and say nothing.

They are rewriting our history and our Bibles and convincing us that it is only a wafer thin morsel as they shove it down our throats. Soon that wafer given in communion to their gods and not ours will choke us as we are not willful enough to resist the lies for the truth.

52 posted on 02/07/2002 11:56:04 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
They will no longer have the capability to discern Good and Evil, Right and Wrong.

It's not so much about ability as it is about willingness, although after a while our consciences become seared.

When Adam and Eve were told not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they already knew what was good and what was evil. Their definition was, "What G-d pronounces good = good" and "What G-d pronounces evil = evil." If you know anything about imagery (and I'm not claiming that the story of Genesis 2 is only imagery) then you know that, "the fruit of," is an image for, "the result of," as in, "the fruit of his folly was poverty."

The "fruit of the tree" was the belief that Adam and Eve were sufficiently reasonable and knowledgeable to make up their own minds about what is good and what is evil without needing any help from G-d.

Just like OWK et. al.

But, in order to think that, you really have to have an overinflated opinion of your own ability to reason and your own storehouse of knowledge.

Had Adam and Eve simply been satisfied to receive the Wisdom that comes from G-d the world would not have fallen.

On a related note, if my 18-year-old son would be satisfied to receive the wisdom of my 41 years, he would not have to suffer the results of so many stupid mistakes. G-d's wisdom and experience are much farther above any man's than mine are above my son's, but the analogy is fitting.

Shalom.

56 posted on 02/07/2002 12:09:19 PM PST by ArGee
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