Posted on 02/01/2002 7:13:38 AM PST by Sir Gawain
Interesting point. Totally wrong, but interesting.
You're presuming that humanity is only material. Humanity is both material and spiritual. Love is spiritual. There may be an electro-chemical manifestation of it, but love is no more the electro-chemical manifestation of love than you are the physical manifestation of you.
You aren't, you know. Your body isn't the same one that it was 10 days ago. Many of the cells have been replaced. All of the cells will be replaced every 7 years. Assuming you are over 14, you are on your third completely different physical manifestation. Yet you are still you.
If you want to know Truth, you are going to have to step outside the limits of the material.
Shalom.
I agree with you... nice way to show the PC view...politically favored groups with no morality concerns.
Not to mention that writing "b)" into law is like posting a lantern at the top of the mast and then navigating according to that lantern.
Shalom.
That's the problem with the article. There is no such thing. It's an oxymoron. Like military intelligence.
I stand with you on this, ArGee. I couldn't agree more, and will act accordingly.
It's not a hypothesis, it's a reality.
But you're stuck in your materialistic mode so you can't apprend the reality.
That doesn't make the reality any less, just you. But the very same you, even if you lose some brain cells.
Shalom.
It seems that more and more our leaders are devoid of moral directions to use as foundations when making laws. This bodes ill for the future of this country. I am amazed at how many Christians feel it is ok to support these politicians. The churches hands are further tied with agreements with the IRS which limit their speech even within the very walls of the church.
It is the lack of morality polluting our society to a point where no one will be safe to live a moral life. In fact if left to continue the idea of right and wrong will be non existent and no compass will be able to determine the way north.
Obviously many so called conservatives and Christians alike will in fact be no different from the most liberal and morally corrupt among us. They will no longer have the capability to discern Good and Evil, Right and Wrong. All it seems to take is a crowd of hyenas to heckle and bay at the moon. and those who stand by and say nothing.
They are rewriting our history and our Bibles and convincing us that it is only a wafer thin morsel as they shove it down our throats. Soon that wafer given in communion to their gods and not ours will choke us as we are not willful enough to resist the lies for the truth.
How do you prove color to the blind? How do you prove sound to the deaf? How do you prove mathematics to the imbecile?
How do you prove spirituality to someone who is spiritually dead?
I need no proof. You are incapable of receiving proof. So why are you wasting bandwidth?
When you break out of your material box and decide you want to know more - not just drop a waste of a challenge by someone who knows better than to take it - you won't need to ask me for proof.
Shalom.
Sorry.
Shalom.
What if it's in my interest and within my capacity to break laws without punishment? Why would I abide by them unless keeping my word or the act of the lawbreaking was in some way wrong?
It's not so much about ability as it is about willingness, although after a while our consciences become seared.
When Adam and Eve were told not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they already knew what was good and what was evil. Their definition was, "What G-d pronounces good = good" and "What G-d pronounces evil = evil." If you know anything about imagery (and I'm not claiming that the story of Genesis 2 is only imagery) then you know that, "the fruit of," is an image for, "the result of," as in, "the fruit of his folly was poverty."
The "fruit of the tree" was the belief that Adam and Eve were sufficiently reasonable and knowledgeable to make up their own minds about what is good and what is evil without needing any help from G-d.
Just like OWK et. al.
But, in order to think that, you really have to have an overinflated opinion of your own ability to reason and your own storehouse of knowledge.
Had Adam and Eve simply been satisfied to receive the Wisdom that comes from G-d the world would not have fallen.
On a related note, if my 18-year-old son would be satisfied to receive the wisdom of my 41 years, he would not have to suffer the results of so many stupid mistakes. G-d's wisdom and experience are much farther above any man's than mine are above my son's, but the analogy is fitting.
Shalom.
FACT: There is electro-chemical reactions that create the emotional feelings that man has labeled "love". Because this is something that most people will only see presented on the likes of The Discovery Channel and the like, and given that this has only been discovered in the latter half of the last century, man convinces himself of things such as "meant to be", "the love of my life" and such. A "spiratual love" is much different, and is hard to define or actually "put your finger on it". Our love for God(if one believes that) is spiratual, obviously, because there is no actual entity similar to a person who can illicit the same types of responses as in "scientific love". Every individual will see "spiratual love" differently, while some may not even believe in it.
FACT: Somebody in a lab has mapped a brainwave pattern to be common among people who are claiming to be "in love."
Additional FACT: That brainwave pattern has nothing to do with why I am still married to my wife after 20 years, and more in love than I was 20 years ago.
Additional FACT: People knew what love was long before any squiggles ever appeared on a scope that monitored brainwaves. The brainwave monitor doesn't create the love, nor do the waves.
Both may be evidence of an emotion, but neither is the cause.
But you need to open the eyes of your spirit to know this. If you trap yourself in your materialist box you will never know it. Blind men can't know color. Deaf men can't know sound. The spritually dead can't know love.
But they can amuse themselves by reading brainwave monitors and claiming they know FACTs.
Shlaom.
Makes one wonder as to the goodness of philosophy.
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