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Catholic Students Forbidden To Attend March for Life
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Posted on 01/31/2002 10:06:05 AM PST by GeneralHavoc

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To: HAMMERONE
Now please crawl back into your hole....moron!
21 posted on 01/31/2002 11:09:03 AM PST by IrishRainy
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To: DallasDeb
No student should be punished because they choose not to attend class.

When I was in law school, teachers took roll. If we missed X number of classes, we flunked the course. If you sign up to take a professor's class, you should be willing to obey his rules. I agree with grumpster and sinkspur; count it as an unexcused absence.

22 posted on 01/31/2002 11:23:48 AM PST by geaux
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To: sinkspur; GeneralHavoc
AMEN!
23 posted on 01/31/2002 11:24:16 AM PST by SWake
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To: DallasDeb;JMJ333
I can't recall any consequenses from missing classes other than not learning what was taught that day. Are these professsors punishing students for missing class, or attending a pro life rally. It sounds like the latter, which also sounds like a violation of the students rights.
24 posted on 01/31/2002 11:29:22 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: GeneralHavoc
Sorry to have to tell you all, but Catholic Colleges, long ago, began recruiting its faculty from the same talent pool that fills our nation's state colleges, universities, Ivy League schools, etc. And you know what this means -- their politics and demographics are largely the same as faculty at Missouri State or some other institution of lower learning.

My stepsister is enrolled at a prominent Catholic University in northern California, Santa Clara. Great school, but her religious studies professor is a liberal Jewish lady who is openly anti-Christian! She is protected by academic freedom and tenure. Apparently, the faculty senate does not require their new hires to be Christian believers.

My wife's cousin teaches drama (it's a "he" and he is as liberal as they come) and he just received a tenure-track position at Loyola University in Baltimore. Sure, it's a Catholic school, but he spent hours during a recent party convincing everyone that even though it's Catholic it's a normal place where normal faculty work -- you know, Catholic in name only.

Then there's the Univ of SF, also Catholic. It sponsors Kwanzaa events on campus (uhh ... there ought to be major league gulfs between the Catholic and Kwanzaa faiths), and there is a LGBT chapter on campus (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender to you naive folks out there).

Flame away, you supporters of Catholic Universities, but my advice to you Freepers is don't think that by sending Junior to a Catholic College you have surrounded him with a traditional, moral, righteous college experience.

25 posted on 01/31/2002 12:46:25 PM PST by tom h
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To: GeneralHavoc
First, Villanova is not a Catholic School. Villanova, like most other colleges funded by faithful, hard-working, fervent Catholics before 1967 [Give so that generations of students yet unborn will bless your memory for providing the funding by which they were able to get a Catholic education at (St. Fill in the Blank U.)] abandoned the discipline which comes with being a Catholic University when Fr. Hesburgh of Notre Dame convened a conference at Land o' Lakes, Wisconsin in 1967 to deal with the terrible problem facing gutless and/or faithless administrators of such places as Villanova: How can we ever be respected by atheists and agnostics and be respected as REAL universities so long as we are Catholic universities? Oh, the horror!!!!

About six Catholic colleges and universities refused to go along with the Land O'Lakes grand theft academic of Church properties. Grenier College of Erie, Pennsylvania, Catholic University in DC, and St. John's University in NYC come immediately to mind.

The rest, courtesy of the supine cowardice of the liberal AmChurch hierarchy, defied Church authority but expect their students to submit to theirs.

Today, Boston College refers coeds for abortions; Georgetown honors the Arkansas Antichrist; Gonzaga in Seattle actually provided physical pens to contain pro-lifers when Gonzaga was graced by the presence of Albore during last year's campaign; Notre Dame is totally notorious with incidents too gruesome and fatal to be described here.

As a result, actual Catholics have had to fund new colleges and universities so that generations of students yet unborn, etc. They have so far been very careful to keep the termites out of the woodwork.

Withdraw from Villanova, Manhattanville, Notre Dame, University of San Francisco, Georgetown, Fordham, Fairfield, etc., ad nauseam and enroll at St. Thomas Aquinas in California, St. Thomas More in New Hampshire, Magdelen in New Hampshire, Christendom in Virginia and the other two or three actually Catholic colleges newly created.

Blind obedience to asinine rules will get us nowhere. There may have been a time when academic rules deserved respect. We are no longer in that time. Conservative though I am, I am proud that we Baby Boomers blew the lid off of mindless discipline like: if you cut x classes you flunk. If the teacher was actually teaching much of substance, the rule would be unnecessary. Regrettably, the succeeding generations of students seem to have allowed the leftpest administrators to reimpose their petty tyrannies and further to impose Political Correctness at schools "of Catholic heritage."

Homeschooling is ever more popular and effective because the education can be tailored to the student rather than the student forced into a straitjacket of industrial model indoctrination.

26 posted on 01/31/2002 12:53:30 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: DallasDeb
As they said in Hunt for Red October: Go Dallas!
27 posted on 01/31/2002 12:54:58 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
Now don't y'all forget to email and call the school. Otherwise the policy will never change... Chris
28 posted on 01/31/2002 1:32:35 PM PST by GeneralHavoc
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To: BlackElk
Now don't y'all forget to email and call the school. Otherwise the policy will never change... Chris
29 posted on 01/31/2002 1:32:39 PM PST by GeneralHavoc
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To: BlackElk
Now don't y'all forget to email and call the school. Otherwise the policy will never change... Chris
30 posted on 01/31/2002 1:32:41 PM PST by GeneralHavoc
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To: GeneralHavoc
I believe that Villanova has been aggressively Left on major social questions for a long time--at least since about 1960. I believe it was about that time that they ran off Prof. Frank C.J. McGurk, a formidable expert on racial aptitudes, whose work was frequently cited in such a respected news publication as U.S. News & World Report, when he proved the fallacy of the environmentalist hypothesis being promoted by such Leftists in the anthropological and psychological fields as Ashley Montagu and others that had worked on the Myrdal study, embraced by the Warren Court.

What McGurk did was what the "Liberals" always claim needed to be done, find a way to take the socio-economic factors out of psychological aptitude testing--or else set up controls to more fully evaluate them. He should have been applauded as a real asset. But apparently someone felt his work should not be encouraged. Now, it appears, that someone feels that saving unborn babies should not be encouraged.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

31 posted on 01/31/2002 1:44:05 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: sinkspur
All the schools in the Memphis diocese send high school students to the march for life every year. They encourage it. If I was dean of that school [har!], they'd be given the day to attend freely. Its a strange thing to be so strict on, especially because of the importance of the issue to our culture and our faith.
32 posted on 01/31/2002 2:46:23 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Dakmar
You'd think they'd encourage their students to attend such an important event. If it were me, I'd take the zero.

Thanks for the bump. =)

33 posted on 01/31/2002 2:48:02 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: GeneralHavoc
Just tell them that your absense is due to a life or death matter.... PERIOD!
34 posted on 01/31/2002 2:53:46 PM PST by demkicker
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To: JMJ333;Khepera;ArGee;EODGUY;Brad's Gramma
I love articles like this. Just goes to show how far the left wing academia/intolerigencia will use force over reason when they feel uncomfortable about discussing the issue further. Now SHUTUP, all of you! :-)
36 posted on 01/31/2002 3:03:24 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: HAMMERONE; *Catholic_bashing
Go drink some kool-aid.
37 posted on 01/31/2002 3:10:58 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: victoria delsoul
ping
38 posted on 01/31/2002 3:13:42 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Dakmar; JMJ333; proud2bRC; Notwithstanding; onyx
Dakmar, I agree that this appears to be more of an agenda issue with the "professors" involved rather than a strictly imposed academic punishment.

A simple record check by the college's administration could reveal how often a specific professor punishes his/her students for unexcused absenses and also identify the reasons given by the students for missing class.

Case in point: At my liberal alma mater, tests were given on Catholic Holy Days, while the same professor deemed attendance, "up to the student's descretion" on days that had religious significance for those of another religion. This happened every semester.

It is disgusting that a "Catholic University" would not encourage participation in such an important cause.

39 posted on 01/31/2002 3:33:24 PM PST by EODGUY
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To: Sir Gawain
Yes, we are infiltrated by liberal relativists even at our institutions of higher learning. Does this negate the foundation of the church or its doctrine? Not a chance.
40 posted on 01/31/2002 3:44:13 PM PST by JMJ333
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