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To: ken21
aren't religions fun?

OK, I'm gonna step waaaaayyy out on a limb here....and dispute your statement. What those idiots did on 9-11 and what they're still planning on doing, is NOT religion. They're murderers hiding behind the name of religion.

34 posted on 01/30/2002 7:18:43 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
if you say so.

therefore it follows that the violence in ireland, israel, and india will end soon.

36 posted on 01/30/2002 7:22:32 PM PST by ken21
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To: Brad's Gramma
yours is a good argument. i have no problem with that position.

but, the more i think about it, the onus is then on you to explain why those suicide bombers come forward "in the name of allah" and kill innocents?

obviously they don't think as you or other civilized people.

i doubt that there is an answer. christians sent armies on the crusades.

it just goes on and on and on.

39 posted on 01/30/2002 7:33:39 PM PST by ken21
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To: Brad's Gramma; ken21
I'm gonna stand on solid ground and say you're both wrong.

Gramma, the only way you could be correct is if you're saying that Islam doesn't deserve to be considered a religion. The murdering that's going on today is a continuation of muslim behavior across the centuries, beginning with that old caravan raider himself, Muhammed. In every place you find Islamic culture today (including it's homeland of Saudi Arabia) you'll find a history of violent takeover. To separate violence from Islam is to do violence to history.

Ken, your statement implies that most of the mayhem in the world is caused by religions - the old "more people have died in the name of religion than any other ..." blather. The only problem with that is that it's just not the truth. So what belief system IS responsible for more deaths than any other? Atheism. It's the fact, like it or not. The loses on both sides in the Crusades, PLUS the deaths in the inquisition, pale in comparison to the reign of terror of one Joseph Stalin. Add China and Cambodia, and you'll be squealing that it's not atheism, but politics, that is responsible. Funny you didn't think of that when you were blaming "religion".

48 posted on 01/30/2002 7:50:29 PM PST by watchin
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