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SEEDS OF FIRE ( RE:ISRAELI SPY POLLARD)
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Posted on 01/30/2002 7:00:47 AM PST by DreamWeaver

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You wanna bet Pollard will soon be enjoying the luxury of freedom ???
1 posted on 01/30/2002 7:00:47 AM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: DennisW, Yehuda, Veronica, Thinkin' Gal, Alouette, A_perfect_lady, EU=4th Reich, BenF, Alouette
Comparison of Pollard's Sentence With Others

Comparison of Pollard's Sentence With Others

The following tables show how grossly disproportionate the life sentence meted out to Jonathan Pollard is when compared with the sentences given to others who commited similar offences by spying for allied nations.

Pollard's life sentence is also disproportionate even when compared to the sentences of those who committed far more serious offences by spying for enemy nations.


Table I: American Allies

  • Jonathan Pollard is the only person in the history of the United States to receive a life sentence for spying for an American ally.
  • On November 21, 2001, Pollard entered the 17th year of his life sentence, with no end in sight.
  • The maximum sentence today for such an offence is 10 years.
  • The median sentence for this offence is 2 to 4 years.

Name Country Spied For Sentence/Punishment Time Served
Before Release*
Jonathan Pollard Israel Life imprisonment  
Michael Schwartz Saudi Arabia Discharged from Navy No time served.
Peter Lee China 1 year in halfway house No jail time.
Samuel Morison Great Britain 2 years 3 months
Phillip Selden El Salvador 2 years  
Steven Baba South Africa 8 years; reduced to 2 years 5 months
Sharon Scranage Ghana 5 years; reduced to 2 years 8 months
Jean Baynes Phillipines 41 months 15 months
Abdul Kader Helmy Egypt 4 years 2 years
Geneva Jones Liberia 37 months  
Frederick Hamilton Ecuador 37 months  
Joseph Brown Phillipines 6 years  
Michael Allen Phillipines 8 years  
Robert Kim South Korea 9 years  
Thomas Dolce South Africa 10 years 5.2 years
Steven Lalas Greece 14 years  

* Time served before release is shown where known. Other cases of early release exist.


Table II: American Enemies

Jonathan Pollard spied for an American ally. This chart shows that Pollard's life sentence is far harsher than most of the sentences received by those who spied for enemies, and thereby committed much more serious offences and treason.

Name Country Spied For Sentence Time Served
Before Release*
James Wood Soviet Union 2 years  
Sahag Dedyan Soviet Union 3 years  
Randy Jeffries Soviet Union 3-9 years  
Amarylis Santos Cuba 3½ years  
Joseph Santos Cuba 4 years  
Mariano Faget Cuba 5 years  
Brian Horton Soviet Union 6 years  
Alejandro Alonso Cuba 7 years  
William Bell Poland 8 years  
Alfred Zoho East Germany 8 years  
Nikolay Ogarodnikova Soviet Union 8 years  
Francis X. Pizzo Soviet Union 10 years  
Daniel Richardson Soviet Union 10 years  
Ernst Forbich East Germany 15 years  
William Whalen Soviet Union 15 years  
Edwin Moore Soviet Union 15 years  
Troung Dinh Ung North Vietnam 15 years  
Ronald Humphrey North Vietnam 15 years  
Kurt Alan Stand East Germany 17½ years  
Robert Lipka Soviet Union 18 years  
David Barnett Soviet Union 18 years  
Svetlana Ogarodnikova Soviet Union 18 years  
Albert Sombolay Iraq & Jordan 19 years  
Richard Miller Soviet Union 20 years 6 years
Theresa Maria Squillacote East Germany 21.8 years  
Sarkis Paskallan Soviet Union 22 years  
Harold Nicholson Soviet Union 23 years  
David Boone Soviet Union 24 years  
Clayton Lonetree Soviet Union 25 years 9 years
Michael Walker Soviet Union 25 years 15 years
Bruce Ott Soviet Union 25 years  
Kelly Warren Hungary &
Czechoslovakia
25 years  
Earl Pitts Soviet Union 27 years  
H.W. Boachanhaupi Soviet Union 30 years  
Roderick Ramsay Hungary &
Czechoslovakia
36 years  
James Hall Soviet Union
& East Germany
40 years  
Christopher Boyce Soviet Union 40 years  
William Kampiles Soviet Union 40 years 19 years
Veldik Enger Soviet Union 50 years  
R.P. Charnyayev Soviet Union 50 years  
Marian Zacharski Poland Life 4 years
Aldrich Ames Soviet Union Life  

* Time served before release is shown where known. Other cases of early release exist.

Aldrich Ames: A Case In Point

Aldrich Ames who spied for an enemy nation (the Soviet Union), committed treason, and was responsible for the deaths of at least 11 American agents, received the same sentence as Jonathan Pollard. Pollard's only indictment was one count of passing classified information to an ally. Pollard spent 7 years in solitary confinement, in the harshest unit of the harshest prison in the Federal system - FCI Marion.

Aldrich Ames' treatment was far more benign, and (except for a relatively short period of time during debriefing) did not include the rigours of long years of solitary; nor was he ever subjected to the harsh conditions of "K" Unit at Marion - even though his offence was far more serious.

See also:
The Unequal Justice Page
The Attorneys' Comparative Sentence Chart


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2 posted on 01/30/2002 7:18:33 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
BTTT.
3 posted on 01/30/2002 7:21:21 AM PST by veronica
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To: BrooklynGOP
The Abdel Kader Helmy Case

From The House Congressional Record - February 2, 1992

H 212 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE

'Attached is a document from the Helmy trial giving a brief overview of the Condor missile. By 1989, Iraq had begun development of its own version of the missile referred to as Project 395.'

4 posted on 01/30/2002 7:23:52 AM PST by veronica
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To: BrooklynGOP
Why weren't the sentences of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg included in your analysis?
5 posted on 01/30/2002 7:33:03 AM PST by albee
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To: albee
Why weren't the sentences of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg included in your analysis?

C'mon, get with the program. This is how "research" is done these days. Any data that don't support the preconceived outcome are thrown out. Haven't you been following the "research" results of such stellar institutions as the American Charlatan.... er, I mean Psychological Association? Sheesh.

A brutal fact is that every nation spies on every other nation it can. If you get caught then it's just your tough luck. I say execute more of the traitors.

6 posted on 01/30/2002 8:14:38 AM PST by Seruzawa
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To: DreamWeaver
Pollard worked for the murderous country who shot up the USS Liberty.

The US Navy Intelligence Service doesn't forget.

Polllard - Rot in prison you pig.

7 posted on 01/30/2002 10:01:13 AM PST by ASTM366
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To: BrooklynGOP
All this is true but the mention of his name at FR just brings a lot of cursing and foul language.
8 posted on 01/30/2002 10:51:59 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
All this is true but the mention of his name at FR just brings a lot of cursing and foul language.

LOL oe's that. There's obviously a disparity in the sentences. Personally, I think the problem is the light sentences given out to the rest of Table I.

Haven't been to this site lately. It's funny, people must spent the day looking for an anti-Israel (in their opinion, I don't think this is) sandwiched between Eisenhower's Holocaust,Allied War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity 1945-1950,Eisenhower's German POW Death Camps - A US Guard's Story ,One Million German POWs Killed After WWII By US And France and A Very Strange Creature Encountered In Villa San Rafael, Chile

This story is a publishers press release. Do you think UPI actually wrote any of this.

9 posted on 01/30/2002 11:34:30 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Seruzawa
A brutal fact is that every nation spies on every other nation it can.

True, however, the ( spying)nation does not continually put pressure for their spy's release,once they are tried and convicted.

10 posted on 01/30/2002 1:10:14 PM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: DreamWeaver
True, however, the ( spying)nation does not continually put pressure for their spy's release,once they are tried and convicted.

Sure they do, we do the same thing, sometimes successfully.

11 posted on 01/30/2002 1:34:27 PM PST by SJackson
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To: DreamWeaver
True, however, the ( spying)nation does not continually put pressure for their spy's release,once they are tried and convicted.

No, they have exchanges of spies. Now, unless you naively believe that the US doesn't spy on Israel or that Israelis are so stupid that they've never caught an American spy, something else is going on.

That being said, I have no problem with Pollard staying in jail the rest of his life. My problem is that, unlike other "patriots" in these threads who are so concerned about America, I refuse to dismiss the concerns of my fellow Americans who feel that the Pollard case is unique for a variety of reasons. I feel that these concerns need to be dealt with to preserve the integrity of American Justice. Evidently, the other "patriots" do not have a problem with our system of Justice being questioned. Some even feel that they have the right to question the loyalty of any American who dares impugn that there was anti-Semitism involved in the Pollard case, but it appears to me that these "patriots" lack the simple courage and faith in our justice system to answer the detractors. They simply dismiss them. To me, that's not patriotism. It's cowardice.

12 posted on 01/30/2002 1:36:25 PM PST by BenF
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To: Seruzawa
I say execute more of the traitors.

You're not a great believer in law, are you?

13 posted on 01/30/2002 1:37:30 PM PST by BenF
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To: ASTM366
Pollard worked for the murderous country who shot up the USS Liberty.

At the risk of hijacking this thread, why did they shoot up the Liberty?

14 posted on 01/30/2002 1:38:50 PM PST by BenF
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To: BrooklynGOP
That disgusting slime Pollard should be executed for treason, and the FBI should investigate anyone that advocates his release from prison.
15 posted on 01/30/2002 4:02:50 PM PST by Blade
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To: BrooklynGOP
Who put together your spin sheet? They forgot to list Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.

Interesting.

16 posted on 01/30/2002 4:06:18 PM PST by Blade
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To: Blade
Spin? I merely posted a list of spies.
17 posted on 01/30/2002 4:13:55 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
The list is incomplete and irrelevant. It omits the Rosenbergs, two Jews interestingly enough, and it doesn't say much about the amount of damage caused by these spies, or how that was factored into the length of the sentences.
18 posted on 01/30/2002 4:28:07 PM PST by Blade
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To: SJackson
This is the website it's from:

http://www.jonathanpollard.org/sentences.htm

19 posted on 01/30/2002 4:31:02 PM PST by dennisw
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