Posted on 01/28/2002 2:05:28 PM PST by John Jorsett
KOGO AM 600 talk show host Roger Hedgecock has just broken the story that the INS has arrested ten illegal aliens (he gave the nationalities, but I can't recall any other than Honduras) at the Point Loma nuclear submarine base in San Diego. The aliens were employed by a contractor and were engaged in the sandblasting and painting of a nuclear submarine! 5 of the aliens had obtained base clearances, and 5 had not. Some aliens fled at the approach of the INS, causing the lockdown of the base. 2 were later apprehended when their hiding place was located. When the INS refused to comment, the KOGO news staff requested the name of the FBI agent in charge of Homeland Security for the San Diego area. They were told that there was none.
So you immediately propose to use the same unconstitutional methods in another venue. MENSA material you ain't.
And anyway I would keep the use of private-sector databases in private hands:
And decisions would be made on the product of same. You STILL have the same problem.
Step 1: Citizen finds a likely wetback.
OK, so far.
Step 2: Citizen spends his own money to run a background check.
OK.
Step3: Citizen dimes out the wetback, including the documentation of the background check. Citizen is at this point $300 down.
So far, so good.
Step 4: Citizen keeps on lazy gubmint INS slacker's case until he gets actions, because there is money in it for Citizen.
In reality: "Lazy INS slacker" can't DO anything, because there's a chain of evidence issue that you inserted into this whole mess with your ill-thought out proposal.
Step 5: Wetback is detained, can't prove citizenship cuz he ain't one, and is sent home.
It doesn't get to that point: INS doesn't have probable cause for detention or deportation. Gosh. Ain't the concept of an "evidentiary chain" just a pain in the neck?
INS pisses and moans and wants more money blah blah blah.
Yeah, they need lots more legal eagle manpower and lots more clerk manpower to handle and store the worthless paperwork you'd flood the INS with.
Taxpaying citizens say: "Talk to the hand."
INS is always told this, anyway, they're used to it.
Step 6: INS cuts a check to Citizen.
Since the paperwork is stalled at Step 2, never to get out, this never happens.
Rinse and repeat.
Eventually, the INS collapses under the worthless paperwork that gets filed.
Until we can fire the sorry lot of that useless INS that let it get out of hand in the first place.
They had nothing to do with it--it's the worthless Congress that hamstrung them, looted their budget, and killed the bracero program in 1965--said action causing the current illegal alien mess to begin with.
Time-to-payback, 5 years, and then we can add the INS's current budget to a tax cut.
Actually, the INS's budget winds up going to handle all of the useless paper your proposal generates, and they NEVER catch another illegal alien ever again.
In any case, why would the INS "harass" anyone without doing a bit of checking themselves.
The situation I described was simple: the INS check WOULD be the harrassment. Federal suits nosing around one's life ain't pleasant.
killed the bracero program in 1965Well THAT much is right! We DO need a guest worker program. But if the INS is useless now and costs somewhere north of $$$24 billion (after "looting!") and would be useless if a reward program was in place, why have it at all?
Congress makes ALL of the financial decisions, period, full stop, end of discussion.
Your problem is not with the INS. It's with the people who control the purse strings.
No further charges will be pursued against a subcontractor for the Navy or 10 illegal immigrants found working at the submarine base on Point Loma, 10News reported.The men, all from Mexico, were detained Sunday while working on an empty dry dock.
The immigrants were working on a painting project on the dock when Border Patrol agents who were training nearby spotted them.
According to 10News, Immigration and Naturalization Service officials said the men used counterfeit green cards to gain employment with Coastal Coatings, which has 150 workers at the base.
The INS returned the 10 people to Mexico after they agreed to leave.
Records were made for the immigrants and fingerprints were taken.
Coastal Coatings President Juan Loza said that some of the immigrants had drivers' licenses.
According to the INS, Coastal Coatings complied with immigration laws, including providing a list of employees to the Navy.
The INS might seek meetings with the local military in the future to see if the incident uncovered any loopholes in their procedures, 10News reported.
ROGER SCOOP: ILLEGALS INSIDE A SAN DIEGO NUCLEAR SUB BASE!!...
He digs out the story of 10 illegals busted at the U.S. Navy submarine base at Point Loma over the past weekend. INSIDE THE BASE..working on a pier next to a real live, full-scale model, actually works gosh darned NUCLEAR SUBMARINE! Eight are from Mexico, one from Honduras and the 10th is from the Philippines (oh, the Philippines...yikes). Two of the culprits flee and have to be ferreted out hiding on base. ROGER calls Border Patrol and gets confirmation...but we can’t tell you anything you have to call the INS. ROGER calls the INS, yes we have a special agent talking to the illegals but we can’t tell you anything. ROGER calls the FBI and is told, "It’s not our job, it is the INS venue" OKAY we get it. The FBI comes in only after the illegals BLOW UP THE SUBMARINE!! Not before... it’s jurisdiction, don’t you civilians understand? ROGER finally gets a call from the U.S. Navy folks at the sub base and their take is like this really ain’t a big thing. The illegals were working on a pier... they were only NEAR the nuclear submarine. And gosh the I.D. stuff is the responsibility of the contractor that hired the illegals
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We keep making the same mistakes twice (three times in the case of the USS Greenville, what's up with that boat?). We learn to work harder at screening folks who get on aircraft after we lose 3-thousand lives in NYC, PA and the Pentagon. We learn to protect our warships at dock after a dingy blows up the USS Cole. And we guess we'll learn to protect our nuclear submarines at Point Loma after an illegal blows the sucker to smithereens. HELP!!
ROGER never one to merely bitch about stuff, he gets on the horn to Congressman Duncan Hunter. Dunk sets up a meeting with a Chief of Naval Operations task force to be attended by Congressman Randy Duke Cunningham... a session set for this afternoon. You'll get an after action report today on ROGER'S radio show. We'll also yell and scream at the U.S. Justice department for not getting the FBI involved in this case pronto. We'll yelp to so called HomeLand Defense Czar Tom Ridge etc.
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Boss has been invited to testify before the House Committee on Government Reform Subcommittee on Criminal Justice, Drug Policy and Human Resources this Thursday January 31st. [This was today, and he said they were surprised to hear his testimony when he brought up this topic.]
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We keep making the same mistakes twice (three times in the case of the USS Greenville, what's up with that boat?). We learn to work harder at screening folks who get on aircraft after we lose 3-thousand lives in NYC, PA and the Pentagon. We learn to protect our warships at dock after a dingy blows up the USS Cole. And we guess we'll learn to protect our nuclear submarines at Point Loma after an illegal blows the sucker to smithereens. HELP!!
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