Fmr. RNC Chair Haley Barbour Registers Web Domain for Politcal Bid

The Magnolia Report ^ | Winter Dec./January 2002 Issue | State Political Newsletter/Tip Sheet Staff

[umbra]

Another indication of a possible run for governor by Republican Haley Barbour comes from an interesting web site registration by the John Grotta Company.

They have reserved barbour2003.com for possible development.

The John Grotta Comapny is a political and direct marketing organization based in Washington D.C. with clients ranging from Senator Trent Lott to Governor Mike Foster of Louisiana to Mayor Rudy Guiliani to Senator Bob Dole's 1996 Presidential Primary to the Mississipp Republican Party.

Other clients have included the National Republican Party, the Republican Congressional Campaign and Senatorial Campaign Committees, and dozens of other congressional, senatorial, gubernatorial and state campaigns and committees.

However, barbour2003.com is still under construction.

[MississippiMan]

Oh good grief. Say it ain't so. He was a horrible RNC chair and I have little doubt he'd be a horrible governor. I personally think he has little to no chance of winning it in the first place.

MM

[Rodney King]

It's not snide, it's correct.

"History...Read it." Is not "correct". Only statements of fact can be correct. Since it is not a statement of fact, it is neither wrong nor correct. It was, however, snide. How you choose to conduct yourself is your choice, but it reflects poorly on you.

[Rodney King]

But you guys are so blinded by your hate for success I doubt you can appreciate that fact.

Your first point is debateable. This above portion that I quoted is a supposition that is not supported by any back up material, and weakens your argument.

[VA Advogado]

Before you debate you need to get some perspective by reading more on the subject.

I couldn't agree with you more. There's a whole lot of revisionism going on on this thread. These people hate success and most hate America. You'll never get them to see beyond their hate filled reading glasses.

[Rodney King]

These people hate success and most hate America

If that isn't the smear of all smears. Someone doesn't like Haley Barbour and "they hate success and most hate America". Boy that's weak.

[rbmillerjr]

hey Rodney - you can attempt to set up a straw man argument all you want. The fact is that you dont know what you are talking about. Your "history" of Barbour is revised by omission, misleading and ineffectual to anybody who has followed politics in the last 20 years.

Now you can keep talking and dig a deeper hole on your misleading "account" of Barbour, drop it, or go read some newspaper archives.

[Rodney King]

hey Rodney - you can attempt to set up a straw man argument all you want.

A straw man position is when one makes a caricature of an opponents position, and than demolishes that caricature. Since I did not characterize your or Barbours position (I only stated my own) I did not therefore make a straw man argument.

[Rodney King]

Now you can keep talking and dig a deeper hole on your misleading "account" of Barbour,

I don't recall digging any further than my initial statement. This would be the third illogical statement that you have made in only a few short posts.

[Rodney King]

Your "history" of Barbour is revised by omission, misleading and ineffectual to anybody who has followed politics in the last 20 years.

Two sentences is hardly a "history". I merely stated my opinion. If it is that faulty, then you should be able to argue against it effectively. Instead, you immediately resorted to ad hominem attack, which is usually the sign that someone either has a weak argument or a weak character. You also managed to make three illogical arguments.

[rbmillerjr]

Better go back and read the Arg and Deb book again. A straw man argument is when a person (such as yourself now), instead of taking on the meat of the issue or defending his position - relies on peripheral arguments such as technical debating terms, ad hominem attacks or illustrates a position or point of debate that is in fact not taken by the opponent. Then the debater knocks down the straw (light) point of debate or an argument that wasnt made which he has created himself.

Your definition is correct but limited in scope, in fact a sort of straw definition.

[Rodney King]

Interesting that in all these posts you have yet to actually state your opinion on the subject. Why is that? What would happen if all of FR refused to discuss issues and instead just insulted the other posters?

[Rodney King]

I'll put my straw man definition up against yours any day. A straw man argument necessitates setting up a straw man in place of your opponents real argument. I have not set up any straw man arguments. It would be difficult for me to do so in light of the fact that I have no idea what your argument even is, as you are wasting everyones time and valuable bandwidth by not even having made any argument here whatsoever - going straight to ad hominem attacks on your first post.

[StoneWallJack]

Kirk Fordice, the Mississippi Republican governor to whom you refer as a "failure in the long run" was anything but a failure. He battled and battered the Dim-ocrats and their leftist newspaper, the Clarion Ledger, for eight years. He self destructed (over a childhood sweetheart) at the end of his term. As a whole, however, his tenure of "not bending one inch on conservative issues" was refreshing and admirable to this Mississippian.

[Theodore R.]

StoneWallJack, thanks for the clarification. I was reporting what I understood the situation to be in regard to former Governor Fordice. My understanding was based on national media reports and the fact that the voters chose a Democrat to succeed him. Whatever happened to former First Lady Fordice?

[nonliberal]

Didn't he go from running the RNC into the ground to lobbying for the UN?

[Rodney King]

Drive Seeks to Get UN Funding Approved on Hill Without Strings
By Thomas Lippman
Washington Post
June 13, 1999

With the United Nations exercising legal authority in Kosovo and long-delayed confirmation hearings for U.S. ambassador-designate Richard C. Holbrooke scheduled to begin this week, a new drive is underway to persuade Congress to pay this country's debt to the world organization. Former Republican national chairman Haley Barbour is the lobbying point man. His client is the Better World Campaign, a small Washington organization established with money from media tycoon Ted Turner to promote the United Nations. Barbour's mission is to persuade Congress to enact legislation authorizing release of funds already appropriated without attaching an antiabortion rider that induced President Clinton to veto a similar bill last year. Barbour declined to discuss his strategy, as did Rep. Christopher H. Smith (R-N.J.), sponsor of the rider, who has indicated his determination to attach the veto-bait language once again.